Outrage from women's group after TRANS woman wins Gold Medal

actually erik said in a recent interview that he was a fully fertile man,with no issues whatsoever. he and his wife only had one child,because she had fertility problems.also when he was a teenager he knew he was really male,but didnt say anything,and as a child he was tougher than most of the boys and every bit as strong,and athletic..also his testosterone levals are that of a normal man.

not dead wrote:

Maybe your brother faked his death and became a woman.

That is a distinct possibility, now that you mention it.

Reality and truth wins at the end. People can deny it, but it wo wrote:

Reality and truth wins at the end. People can deny it, but it won't go away. Let it happen, people want to say women can do anything men can do, well let's see how they really do. Just let it implode on itself.

Yes, the "movement" will eat it's self and implode on it's own.

This is another thread that mixes up two different things— transgender athletes and people with DSD.

Transgender athletes are usually people who are clearly biologically male or female, but identify with a different gender. They may or may not intentionally take steps to alter their biological traits to match a different gender.

Semenya and people with a DSD haven’t made any choice and it’s not a matter of identifying as a gender that doesn’t match their biology. In Semenya’s case, for example, her natural condition is to have a testosterone level that is naturally higher than the highest normal female level, but lower than the lowest normal male level. She would have to dope either to get down to a normal female level or up to a normal male level. It’s a matter of actual biology being messy and variable and not meshing with the binary (either male or female) sex divisions in athletics.

Sports should be divided into two groups:

Group 1: People who have a Y chromosome

Group 2: People who do not have a Y chromosome

That's it - very simple - nothing to argue about.

It will eventually come to a point where one of two things will happen:

(1) There will be no more women's sports.

(2) Transgender athletes will be required to compete with the men or be assigned a third division.

The scary thing is that people with evil motives are masquerading as feminists with the real agenda of keeping women out of sports and in the kitchen. The goal is to displace women from sports by replacing them with men that identify as women. Then, the whole scheme will collapse on itself and women will no longer be competing.

That's the long term agenda.

It makes me so happy that SJW and Feminisms are destroying themselves

The "Y" Group and the "No Y" Group wrote:

Sports should be divided into two groups:

Group 1: People who have a Y chromosome

Group 2: People who do not have a Y chromosome

That's it - very simple - nothing to argue about.

It's easy to come up with simple rules. The tricky part is coming up with *good* rules.

If you are XY with CAIS you will develop as a female and may never know there is anything unusual about you. Your body is insensitive to testosterone and thus your testosterone level is irrelevant - your body ignores it. You won't be able to have kids, but in almost every other respect you will look like and develop like an bog-standard XX female.

There is no legitimate reason why someone like that can't compete as a woman.

I'd love to see how people and the running community would react if Castor ran a 1:48. Still Ok?

Sprinter Guy wrote:

It will eventually come to a point where one of two things will happen:

(1) There will be no more women's sports.

(2) Transgender athletes will be required to compete with the men or be assigned a third division.

The scary thing is that people with evil motives are masquerading as feminists with the real agenda of keeping women out of sports and in the kitchen. The goal is to displace women from sports by replacing them with men that identify as women. Then, the whole scheme will collapse on itself and women will no longer be competing.

That's the long term agenda.

We're nowhere near not having women's sports. Off the top of my head, there are a couple of HS sprinters in Connecticut, a D-2 hurdler and a Canadian masters cyclist. I'm not aware of even one MTF transgender distance runner in either HS, college or the pro ranks. Treated transgenders have been eligible to compete in the Olympics since 2004, but this weightlifter would be the first.

In the U.S., transgenders, both MTF and FTM, are about .6% of the population. There is no way athletes out of such a small population are going to take over women's sports. When Renee Richards started playing women's tennis in the 70's, there were people predicting a wave of transgenders taking over the sport, but there hasn't been even one transgender to play on the women's tour since then.

DSD males - which is what Semenya is - have male chromosomes and reproductive organs, no female reproductive organs, and male levels of testosterone. They identify as female. Same as transgender.

Yet those that are competing are routinely beating the women. You are confusing numbers participating with those who reach the podium. Trans and DSD males are a small part of the population but the incidence competing in women's sports is estimated to be far greater - for quite obvious reasons. Where they are competing they are generally winning. You quote Renee Richards: she has lately said she is now opposed to trans women competing in women's sports because the advantage is unfair.

Correction: refer to Renee Richards.

Once it becomes socially acceptable and they are celebrated more will come, why do you think it’s two in Connecticut, it’s the precipice. All top three 800m Olympic finishers, not a coincidence.

Is Caitlyn Jenner making a comeback?

Brown Udder wrote:

It makes me so happy that SJW and Feminisms are destroying themselves

+1

Democrats, too!