Are there any pro women in any pro sport that could beat the worst pro man in that sport?

Shaq wrote:

lrc vett wrote:

So a bunch of people have given examples that meet the criteria and in typical LRC fashion, the weak try to do mental gymnastics to explain why they don't count. Sounds about right.

Or was I trying to promote top women?

I never opined on your intention. I just commented that people are so upset that such examples exist that they are trying to ignore them away, and that this is typical for LRC.

Gonna Have to call BS wrote:

Does he shower wrote:

I was a member of an elite Texas high school basketball team. Our girls volleyball team was elite as well. None of us had any volleyball training. We played them in volleyball and beat them 15-0 and 15-1. Our front line was, however, 6'9".

Gonna have to call BS on this one. People with no volleyball training will carry the volleyball every single touch. You would have lost a properly officiated volleyball match 15-0, 15-0.

Absolutely agree no way they won 15-0 and 15-1. Especially the 6'9" front line basketball players who are used to palming a basketball. This would also basically mean the basketball team didn't make any errors, which is laughable. No serves into the net? No serves too long? No serves out left or right? I am guessing they got beat 15-0 and 15-1, but claimed the following actual rules was unfair, so they amongst themselves they declared themselves the winner.

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Harambe wrote:

Sorenstam beat a bunch of mean over 2 days off the men's tees. Plenty of pro men don't make the cut.

You're moving the goalposts because youre desperate to not cede this random point.

Could a female golfer beat the worst male pro golfer? Yes.

I was going to come back on here to defend my original post regarding golf pros. But I see that you've got it covered.

:-)

Sorenstam's participation was described by Nick Price as a "publicity stunt". No male pro earned that less than flattering description. She never tried it again. If she was as good as the worst men, I don't think anyone was impressed if that was what she was trying to prove.

Elvin wrote:

In most sports, the "worst pro man" at any given moment would probably be someone who is badly injured. If a basketball player suffers an open tib/fib fracture, they pretty much immediately become the worst male pro basketball player on account of their injury.

Given this, situations probably arise pretty frequently where a female (or even a small child) could beat the worst pro man.

I mean what your saying is true but its extremely annoying

Except the worst pro golfers don't even come close to even making the pga tour events. The men Sorenstam beat on the PGA tour weren't even close to the worst pros. In fact, the Monday qualifiers she beat were probably close to the top of their game since they'd just finished in the very few top percentile of men trying to qualify. She would easily beat the worst pro golfers.

Non-idiot: "As for Annika Sorenstam, she said she picked the Colonial tournament because it had a relatively short and tight course where her lack of long drives wouldn't be as much of a handicap as it would on other courses, so it seems like she might not have done as well at other tournaments. In the first round, she led the field in driving accuracy, but she putted poorly both days. From what her playing partners and the press said at the time, I had the impression that if she had played it a few years in a row, she probably would have made the cut sometimes. Regardless, she did beat some pros who also didn't make the cut, including Geoff Ogilvy, who won the U.S. Open a few years later and has won over $30m on the PGA tour. She finished only two strokes behind Sergio Garcia."

Armstrong-idiot: "Not really comparable. Women golfers don't play off the same tees as the men."

Non-idiot: "Uhhhhh...no you idiot. Everyone in a PGA tour event has to play from the same tee. This is common sense."

Armstrong-idiot: "Yeah and she didn't make the cut."

Non-idiot: "Seriously? I said that in the first post. Pros miss the cut in every PGA event - that's what a "cut" does. She beat pros. This is precisely what the OP asked."

Armstrong-idiot: "Yeah but Price said it was a publicity stunt so it doesn't count."

What a moran.

v678 wrote:

easily peasily wrote:

basketball most likely. There's definitely basketball chicks that can beat the worst NBA players

I don't think this is true, but I think Serena Williams in her prime could beat the worst mens pro tennis player.

Not even close for Serena. She would get crushed by the 1000th ranked male pro. You don't realize how good these guys are at the pro level and how little separates these guys.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Sorenstam's participation was described by Nick Price as a "publicity stunt". No male pro earned that less than flattering description. She never tried it again. If she was as good as the worst men, I don't think anyone was impressed if that was what she was trying to prove.

You got so tied up in your ever-shifting argument that you forgot to re-read the thread title! OOPS!

Climbing. The hardest route climbed by a woman is 5.15b, which is better than some male pros. Lots of other examples in climbing . The best women are not quite as good as the best men, but the best women are definitely good enough to be professional climbers regardless of sex.

Not even close. The top WNBA players couldn't make a decent high school boys team. No disrespect to the women, it's just that the physical difference is that big.

+1

WNBA is less athletic than an average HS boys game. Any NCAA power 5 starter would be a WNBA all star if not MVP.

Long Range Rifle Shooting is shot on an equal terms basis in the World Champs and Commonwealth Games (not in Olympics any more.) A woman won the 2003 World LR Champs held at Bisley in England. There are very few pros in the sport though.

The ISSF / Olympic disciplines are held as separate mens’ and womens’ events, with slightly different courses of fire.

This has been truly hilarious to watch. Armstronglivs for LRC idiot of the month (LIotM)?

Harambe wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Sorenstam's participation was described by Nick Price as a "publicity stunt". No male pro earned that less than flattering description. She never tried it again. If she was as good as the worst men, I don't think anyone was impressed if that was what she was trying to prove.

You got so tied up in your ever-shifting argument that you forgot to re-read the thread title! OOPS!

Gymnastics, DUH

Loneliness of the Long Range Rifle Shot wrote:

Long Range Rifle Shooting is shot on an equal terms basis in the World Champs and Commonwealth Games (not in Olympics any more.) A woman won the 2003 World LR Champs held at Bisley in England. There are very few pros in the sport though.

The ISSF / Olympic disciplines are held as separate mens’ and womens’ events, with slightly different courses of fire.

If its been said already I missed it. But in auto racing, women can compete on men. Women have competed and been successful in Indy car, Nascar, Formula 1, etc. Men dominate the sport but women are competitive with the very best men and have even won major races. I can't think of another major sport that widely popular or participated in where that could be said.

This Is wrote:

Not even close. The top WNBA players couldn't make a decent high school boys team. No disrespect to the women, it's just that the physical difference is that big.

+1

WNBA is less athletic than an average HS boys game. Any NCAA power 5 starter would be a WNBA all star if not MVP.

An NCAA power 5 starter for a men's team wouldn't just be a WNBA all-star or even MVP, they'd go 50 points, 25 rebounds and have a quadruple double each night with ease. That's in a 40 minute game too.

Tripeople wrote:

Easy Peasy 123 wrote:

Triathlon. At the 2018 World Championships, the female winner, Daniela Ryf, would have placed 25th in the men’s race, beating more than half of the men’s field, which was theoretically the best 50 pro men in the world.

Her time of 8:26:18 would have won OVERALL in 20 of the last 42 Kona Ironmans.

riathlon

Let's look deeper at this, so we can address this with FACTS and not conjecture like we have to with basketball and other sports.

Kona is the top of the sport, the best professionals, competing on the same course on the same day, only separated by a few minutes in start time. Just over fifty of the best men in the world lining up.

2017

Daniela Ryf would have been 32nd in a field of 55 men, and she would have beaten Jan Frodeno by three spots.

2016

Daniela Ryf would have been 31st in a field of 57 men,

2015

Daniela Ryf would have been 24th in a field of 54 men.

2014

Mirinda Carfrae would have been 30th in a field of 53 men.

And it isn't just the top woman who would beat men. In 2018 there were 12 women would have beaten the last male finisher (and there were 9 more men "behind" him who DNFed).

In 2017 all 28 of the women who finished would have beaten the last male pro. There were probably a lot of female age-groupers who would have beaten him as well but I didn't bother to look because the point is proven.

Sunday! Sunday! wrote:

Shirley "Cha Cha" Muldowney. Has there ever been a woman more successful in a sport/game/competition dominated by men.

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When the NHRA ranked the top 50 drivers in the first 50 years Muldowney was voted 5th best all-time.

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Gymnastics, DUH

Wrong. This has been done before too. There are videos on YouTube showing guys easily outperforming the females on every single routine that the women do.

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wroooong.. wrote:

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Gymnastics, DUH

Wrong. This has been done before too. There are videos on YouTube showing guys easily outperforming the females on every single routine that the women do.

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Even the little floor dancing/tumbling?