Sorry Allyson. Its Sydney's spot......

If AF was with Nike, they would make sure she had that spot. Not so sure she slides in without their lobbying.

Also add 2017 WC Phy Francis and newly world record holder Dali Muhammed and the 6 in the relay pool should b as follows top 3 at 2019 usatf(SW.KE.SC runner

PF.SM and DM) theres ur relay pool. Sorry okolo and beard but those 400IH are better flat 400 runners. And i not sure that 3rd place 400IH (ashley spencer) couldn't fill in if needed.

You have no idea how this works.

Felix is the most decorated american sprinter of all time. She is getting a huge farewell. Syd is the future, but Allyson will get her farewell tour and run in the World Championships and Olympics .

Book it. Her story to the world is too big. And syd is an unknown.

Will be interesting to see. Muhammad and Sydney should get the spot . But Felix has always gotten special treatment. Was it because she ran for Nike or the darling of USATF? Notice that the TV announcers were screaming she was on the relay team. Definitely tv ratings will be a factor.

No idea..... its track and field not a reality show.. she is not nearly as fast as those 6 women i listed. Her story is a good one if you where to direct a reality show on USA or TNT. But thats not the objective . Winning Gold in the 4 x 4 in DOHA IS!!!

Syd is not an unknown. As a previous poster stated they can both be chosen. One can race the preliminary the other the final so they can both receive medals.

I thought the same thing yesterday. Allyson has always been my favorite runner but unless she’s in low 50 or high 49 shape by the championships, you have to go with Syd or Muhammad. Or take both and leave off another 51 flat runner.

Frankly, I think Syd can beat any other American in a flat 400 meters.

without Nike? wrote:

If AF was with Nike, they would make sure she had that spot. Not so sure she slides in without their lobbying.

Of course. She'll be there because she is de facto Nike now and will be officially tomorrow. No possibility of someone in adidas making it on that team when AF is available. Every USATF official is a Nike employee. That's who funds their budget and this is why they want that ownership.

Women's relay teams won't win anything with that slow has been on the anchor, but obscene amounts of camera time is more valuable to Nike and therfore USATF.

19.99 and Hounddog, I am at least happy to see that their are a few folks out there noticing that although it should be, USATF's primary agenda isn't to win relays, it is to get Felix and her Nike shoes in front of cameras as much as possible. Fortunately they've won a few in spite of faster runners being passed over for her, but I can't imagine an aging and unfit media darling not preventing that this year. I am so glad you guys are posting on this topic. Thought I was the only one who considers the automatic Felix spot policy unjust and corrupt. Another Felix thread has a few posts on this topic.

This conversation is almost pointless without knowing what Sydney wants. Maybe she just wants to focus on the 400h & closing the gap on the new WR holder. Also, Felix is on the comeback trail & can gain fitness over the next two months & make it almost a wash on who lines up. Can definitely see that happening plus Felix is the name people want to see. I say let her have her farewell tour. She's earned it.

NBC will make sure AF gets the spot

nbcdecision wrote:

NBC will make sure AF gets the spot

Yeah love Ato Bolden breathlessly yelling “Allyson Felix has made the relay team !!” Jeez the lady was an afterthought in the race .

Hounddogharrier wrote:

nbcdecision wrote:

NBC will make sure AF gets the spot

Yeah love Ato Bolden breathlessly yelling “Allyson Felix has made the relay team !!” Jeez the lady was an afterthought in the race .

Well, Felix has made the relay POOL.

The team for heats and final will be decided by the coaches.

Usually, athletes eligible for relays are top 6 in the national finals, and EVERY OTHER athlete in any event that has qualified for worlds.

So, theoretically, the U.S. could put Shelby Houlihan or Emma Coburn on the relay.

Several championships ago, U.S. men suffered 3 or 4 injuries during the 400s and the relay heats, including a broken leg.

The ended up scrounging up non 400 runners for the final, including Bershawn Jackson.

sprcoach 19.99 wrote:

Im sure whoever is deciding the relay pool for the womens 4 x 400m relay is gonna chose Syd Mcg or Ally Felix. It kinda a "no brainer" . Simple math. Syd Mcg 50.xx open over Allyson's 51 mid open. Lets see if Bobby Kearse throws a fit over the next few days to get her on the relay.. Will USATF stand up to B.Kearse and put the best team on the track in Doha????

This whole conversation is a moot point.

Syd did not run in the flat 400 event. She did not qualify for the relay 4x 400 pool. Top six finishers go from nationals.

Not today wrote:

sprcoach 19.99 wrote:

Im sure whoever is deciding the relay pool for the womens 4 x 400m relay is gonna chose Syd Mcg or Ally Felix. It kinda a "no brainer" . Simple math. Syd Mcg 50.xx open over Allyson's 51 mid open. Lets see if Bobby Kearse throws a fit over the next few days to get her on the relay.. Will USATF stand up to B.Kearse and put the best team on the track in Doha????

This whole conversation is a moot point.

Syd did not run in the flat 400 event. She did not qualify for the relay 4x 400 pool. Top six finishers go from nationals.

Yes she did. As other posters have mentioned, every athlete on the team in the other events also qualifies for the relay pool. 400 hurdlers run in the relays all the time at World Championships and Olympics.

I guess we won't use Lyles in the 4x1.

I like Allison and she has done a lot for the sport, but she no longer deserves to be on the team that runs in the finals, she should be relegated to only running in the qualification rounds from here on out. But I have a feeling strings are going to get pulled and she will only run the final (hopefully not though).

inthepdx wrote:

I like Allison and she has done a lot for the sport, but she no longer deserves to be on the team that runs in the finals, she should be relegated to only running in the qualification rounds from here on out. But I have a feeling strings are going to get pulled and she will only run the final (hopefully not though).

I agree, she might be back to full strength for next year but for now I would go with Syd.

My first post on these boards and wanted to weigh in. If Felix thinks she is ready, she will at least run the rounds. The most prolific female track athlete won't ask to be on the team if she isn't ready. What is the last 4X400 she has been on that USA didn't win (while getting the stick around)? She clearly has demonstrated that she knows how to win relay gold and we need her experience.

IMO, Sydney should run some flat 400's before the WC and prove she can run under 50. I find it hard to believe she isn't one of our top 4. What shape Francis be in? Wimbley and Ellis are locks, but after that, you have to consider SM. Jonathas looked good, but remember she has had a long season already, not too many NCAA folks are in the same form they were in early June (remember Fred Kerley in 2017).