BREAKING NEWS! Nike Introduces New Cushioning Technology

New Age Beardy wrote:

This is all excellent stuff except you misspelled "jogging" as "running".

e.g. you should have had'- "There's nothing wrong with jogging as a hobby.", "More people should jog", etc.

Some people here, as you say, may be "pretty fast" when they're actually running and yes maybe use that as an ego boost when comparing themselves against people who only jog and have never worked out that you can switch up a gear and actual run.

Running is running. There are different paces of running: jogging, sprinting, etc. But it's all running. You can be a runner if you have a 15 minute 5k, and you can be a runner if you have a 30 minute 5k. If you have a 15 minute 5k and you're upset about a 30 minute 5k'er calling themselves a runner, then you also earn the title of being a "p*ssy" in addition to being a runner.

No. Wrong.

https://darebee.com/running/walking-jogging-running.html

https://theydiffer.com/difference-between-walking-jogging-and-running/

I would certainly argue with reference to looking at the homo sapiens in question's gait that jogging / running are distinct activities. I would content that most hobbyjoggers have never actually attempted to run in a sustained manner.

Those don't appear to be legitimate, peer reviewed, scientific resources.

lol @ people getting their panties into a bunch over jogging vs running.

Speed walking rules:

"There are only two rules that govern racewalking.[4][5] The first dictates that the athlete's back toe cannot leave the ground until the heel of the front foot has touched. Violation of this rule is known as loss of contact. The second rule requires that the supporting leg must straighten from the point of contact with the ground and remain straightened until the body passes directly over it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racewalking

People who jog lose contact with the ground therefore they are running.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Ummmm. Article says everything. Sounds like more for the hobby jogger/weekend warrior crowd.

https://news.nike.com/news/nike-joyride-cushioning

Are they endorsed by a Rapper, Basketball Player, or big-name Social Media influencer?

soccerxc wrote:

They're probably referencing their Nike+ program, which is free to join.

My point being I have no desire to be a "Member" of a shoe brand so that they can fill my email with spam or send me junk texts. Just like I don't want to give some cashier my phone number so they can market to me.

by def jog is running wrote:

Speed walking rules:

"There are only two rules that govern racewalking.[4][5] The first dictates that the athlete's back toe cannot leave the ground until the heel of the front foot has touched. Violation of this rule is known as loss of contact. The second rule requires that the supporting leg must straighten from the point of contact with the ground and remain straightened until the body passes directly over it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racewalking

People who jog lose contact with the ground therefore they are running.

Nonsense. If I jump in the air both feet loose contact with the ground.

Therefore by your "logic" jogging and jumping are running!

New Age Beardy wrote:

by def jog is running wrote:

Speed walking rules:

"There are only two rules that govern racewalking.[4][5] The first dictates that the athlete's back toe cannot leave the ground until the heel of the front foot has touched. Violation of this rule is known as loss of contact. The second rule requires that the supporting leg must straighten from the point of contact with the ground and remain straightened until the body passes directly over it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racewalking

People who jog lose contact with the ground therefore they are running.

Nonsense. If I jump in the air both feet loose contact with the ground.

Therefore by your "logic" jogging and jumping are running!

Funny thing, that's the logic that one of those dumb articles you posted tries to use. Thanks for discrediting yourself and saving us the trouble.

Nonsense.

The only person being discredited is someone who genuinely argues that jogging gaits and running gaits are the same and therefore the same activity. I absolutely cannot understand the mental gymnastics required to embed that concept in your brain. Note I never said anything against jogging (I jog a lot!), simply that I can recognise it as a different form of movement from when I'm actually running.

The running Godz set forth may 1973 that 7 minute pace and faster shall be running. Jogging shall be any pace slower to even include jogging in place.

I used to be a hobby runner. Now I can barely race a 10k keeping a running pace. Nothing wrong with jogging though as that is pretty much all I can do now!!

New Age Beardy wrote:

Nonsense.

The only person being discredited is someone who genuinely argues that jogging gaits and running gaits are the same and therefore the same activity. I absolutely cannot understand the mental gymnastics required to embed that concept in your brain. Note I never said anything against jogging (I jog a lot!), simply that I can recognise it as a different form of movement from when I'm actually running.

You're arguing about something else. You're trying to say running is one thing, and jogging is a separate thing. I'm saying running is a general term that encompasses lots of things, mainly distinguished by pace. Jogging is a form of running. Sprinting is a form of running. There are different paces, different gaits, etc., they just all fall under the umbrella term as running. I'm not doing any mental gymnastics and implying that jogging is the same gait as sprinting, so don't push that strawman on me.

Well now you are back exactlywhere you started with your "p*ssy" calling of someone saying a 30 min 5k isn't a runner. You could just write this off as a question of semantics but conflating "sprinting" and "running" is interesting as I don't think anyone "sprints" a 5k per se. So it becomes quite difficult to understand whether you have ever actually "ran" a 5k or are very much a hobbyjogger in which case the distinction I am trying to make here will simply be lost on you.

e.g. if I am running a 5k (not sprinting) my motion is as far removed from jogging as jogging is from walking. I think the hobbyjogger simply cannot make that distinction as they have never actually ran.

Ah, I figured it out. You don't know how to read, that's the problem. I'm not going to go back and re-explain everything, because everything is already there, typed up in previous posts, and is consistent in the thought process. If you can't keep it all straight and keep making up things to get upset about in your head, that's your problem not mine.

All this stuff your getting upset about isnt even stuff I said. You're twisting my words and mixing things up. Go back and read and put some critical thought into it.

Just to be clear - I absolutely don't care whether a 30 min 5k'r calls themself a "runner". All I was trying to do was educate you from the opposite end of your clearly very focused thought process spectrum as to why someone who was a runner might get miffed by them using that title, as they weren't actually running, without resorting to thinking they had to be a "p*ssy".

However given I clearly cannot get any indication that you understand that difference between jogging & running (there's only jogging or sprinting by your own definition "Jogging is a form of running. Sprinting is a form of running") I'm obviously wasting my time.

Good day to you Sir.

Way to stand for something so you don't fall for everything

New Age Beardy wrote:

by def jog is running wrote:

Speed walking rules:

"There are only two rules that govern racewalking.[4][5] The first dictates that the athlete's back toe cannot leave the ground until the heel of the front foot has touched. Violation of this rule is known as loss of contact. The second rule requires that the supporting leg must straighten from the point of contact with the ground and remain straightened until the body passes directly over it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racewalking

People who jog lose contact with the ground therefore they are running.

Nonsense. If I jump in the air both feet loose contact with the ground.

Therefore by your "logic" jogging and jumping are running!

Running is jumping. Now jumping isn't always running.

Banana Beard wrote:

Just to be clear - I absolutely don't care whether a 30 min 5k'r calls themself a "runner". All I was trying to do was educate you from the opposite end of your clearly very focused thought process spectrum as to why someone who was a runner might get miffed by them using that title, as they weren't actually running, without resorting to thinking they had to be a "p*ssy".

However given I clearly cannot get any indication that you understand that difference between jogging & running (there's only jogging or sprinting by your own definition "Jogging is a form of running. Sprinting is a form of running") I'm obviously wasting my time.

Good day to you Sir.

Again, your comprehension is very low. I never said there is only jogging and sprinting, I merely used those two as examples, implying that there are many more examples in addition to those. I very clearly followed those two examples in a post by saying there are many gaits and paces, which implies there are more examples. Running encompasses multiple forms of gait across many paces. I'll keep repeating myself to beat it into your head. You are getting caught up in the little things you misinterpret and are completely missing the bigger picture of what I'm trying to say.

I understand what you're trying to say. You're trying to say jogging and running are two different things. Well I don't know how many times I have to say it. Jogging is a form of running. Jogging is a subcategory of running. There are several subcategories of running in addition to jogging. Jogging is running, but not all running is jogging. Get it? Somehow I still don't think you'll be able to process what I'm saying, but I tried.

And the "p*ssy" thing. If someone is bugged that someone slower can call themselves a runner too, then yeah, they're a p*ssy. If you're a big manly runner and you get hurt that some housewife just trying to stay in shape calls herself a runner, then yeah you're a p*ssy. If you run a 15 minute 5k and your panties get in a twist because a 30 minute 5k'er calls themselves a runner, then you're a p*ssy. If you have to spend your life trying to prove that slower person is a jogger and not a runner, then You. Are. A. P*ssy*. They are a runner, because jogging is running.

Logic class wrote:

New Age Beardy wrote:

Nonsense. If I jump in the air both feet loose contact with the ground.

Therefore by your "logic" jogging and jumping are running!

Running is jumping. Now jumping isn't always running.

Ha - How would we define skipping?

(Always been interested in the pace possible by a sustained skipping motion, e.g. how fast can one skip a mile?)