Rocks and leaves make good toilet paper, except the poison ivy ones. Pooing in the woods is a regular occurrence in trail running. It's not a big deal.
Rocks and leaves make good toilet paper, except the poison ivy ones. Pooing in the woods is a regular occurrence in trail running. It's not a big deal.
Middle Ground wrote:
Rocks and leaves make good toilet paper, except the poison ivy ones. Pooing in the woods is a regular occurrence in trail running. It's not a big deal.
Thanks for the advice. I usually use rocks unless at altitude... as I stated before no need to wipe above 5,000ft
Ultra Wipes wrote:
AdamCroucher wrote:
I've run ultras up to 50 miles (about 7 hours) and never had to poop during one. Maybe if you're running 100 miles and you're out there all day, but usually if you're actually running most of the race, you won't need to poop.
I have had to unexpectedly poop during long runs though. In those cases I just try to follow LNT principles as much as possible by digging a hole off trail and burying it. It's not a common thing for me so I don't carry TP, so in those instances I just use a small smooth rock, leaves, or some moss. However, as someone already said though, if you're squatting ATG there's usually nothing to wipe.
Honestly, deer/elk/moose/bear/mountain lions/all those big scary creatures most LR's fear typically out-number humans in those big scary wilderness-y backwoods type places, and I have yet to see any of them using doggie bags. What I DO see is plenty of their offspring (droppings), like all over the place - directly on the trails, just off to the side of them, here, there, and just about everywhere. So am I overly concerned if I need to use the bushes once in awhile? You be the judge...
I'm not concerned that my occasional poop is going to hurt the environment - I'm concerned the occasional poop by hundreds of people makes for a very unaesthetic and unsanitary experience on the trail if nobody follows courteous procedures.
I was watching Boston Marathon runners go by and saw a big poopy in middle of street at about mile 21 and I couldn’t stop laughing every time someone coming stepped in it
How did a big poopy get there?
One year at Western States (when Norm Klein was race director) they gave each entrant a plastic bag to hold your used toilet paper which you were expected to dropoff at an aid station.
ultra crap wrote:
One year at Western States (when Norm Klein was race director) they gave each entrant a plastic bag to hold your used toilet paper which you were expected to dropoff at an aid station.
P.S. you were not expected to bring the poop to the aid station.
It is a requirement in the Badwater 135 mile race.
Can we get Hoka to sponsor this thread? maybe Sage will chip in
I have run over parts of numerous 100 mile trail races and, based on morning after evidence, many runners poop on or next to the trail.
Easy to do at night when its dark and you can tell no one is around because there are no lights. Its a race, and people are tired. Messing in a bag, digging a hole, or even stepping well off the trail take extra time and energy.
Other common things found along the trail after a race include unknown pill/drug wrappers (the little foil backed ones), pills, gel and energy bar wrappers, partially eaten food, articles of clothing, water bottles, puke, piss,
Remember its not just the runners out there. Crew members, spectators, and pacers also contribute.
None of this should occur, but unfortunately not all trail runners have an environmental ethic.
If a low budget ultra race covers many acres, whose responsibility is it to pick up the poopies? If it’s just a couple hikers big deal, but when you host a race you risk turning the entire trail of the race course into a dung mine field
Hot Buns wrote:
I witnessed an ultra guy drop trou and unload in the middle of the trail. Once finished, he simply continued running like nbd. He left his giant logs in the middle of the trial.
Jamin?
FormerTree wrote:
Hot Buns wrote:
I witnessed an ultra guy drop trou and unload in the middle of the trail. Once finished, he simply continued running like nbd. He left his giant logs in the middle of the trial.
Jamin?
Jamin has hot buns? No way!
yes #2 out there wrote:
I have run over parts of numerous 100 mile trail races and, based on morning after evidence, many runners poop on or next to the trail.
Easy to do at night when its dark and you can tell no one is around because there are no lights. Its a race, and people are tired. Messing in a bag, digging a hole, or even stepping well off the trail take extra time and energy.
Other common things found along the trail after a race include unknown pill/drug wrappers (the little foil backed ones), pills, gel and energy bar wrappers, partially eaten food, articles of clothing, water bottles, puke, piss,
Remember its not just the runners out there. Crew members, spectators, and pacers also contribute.
None of this should occur, but unfortunately not all trail runners have an environmental ethic.
I thought they all green
if are you racing or trying to AG place then drink Imodium and shut it down.
end of thread
I have pooped 3 times while running in 7 years of ultras. Only once was an emergency enough to go off trail...i had giardia. I buried it with a rock. The other times im used aid stations
Ultra tit wrote:
I have pooped 3 times while running in 7 years of ultras. Only once was an emergency enough to go off trail...i had giardia. I buried it with a rock. The other times im used aid stations
My dog had giardia but not me
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yes #2 out there wrote:
I have run over parts of numerous 100 mile trail races and, based on morning after evidence, many runners poop on or next to the trail.
Easy to do at night when its dark and you can tell no one is around because there are no lights. Its a race, and people are tired. Messing in a bag, digging a hole, or even stepping well off the trail take extra time and energy.
Other common things found along the trail after a race include unknown pill/drug wrappers (the little foil backed ones), pills, gel and energy bar wrappers, partially eaten food, articles of clothing, water bottles, puke, piss,
Remember its not just the runners out there. Crew members, spectators, and pacers also contribute.
None of this should occur, but unfortunately not all trail runners have an environmental ethic.
Sometimes there are very narrow trails. Is it a punishment for not being in first place? The last place guy has to run over a ton of turds ?
I poop in the woods weekly
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