San Francisco*
San Francisco*
CuriousPerson wrote:
Basically, coastal places that mostly draw people because of well paying or interesting jobs who wouldn't otherwise want to live there. NYC obviously being the top of the list.
People frequently accept lower salaries in order to live/work in NYC. A typical family med salary in NYC would be around $150K. These physicians could make $200K+ in a smaller city or ~$300K in a rural area. Even with the relatively low salaries, the number of doctors who want to work in NYC exceeds the number of positions available and it is incredibly competitive to get a job in the city.
I'm thinking that people probably aren't fighting tooth and nail to get lower paying jobs because they are ambivalent about being in NYC. New York might not be your kind of place. That's fine. To each his own. But I don't think you have basis for your claim that NYC is full of people who are only there for the jobs.
That's just not true. A family med PA in NYC makes over $150k a year. I know that for a fact.
Have you ever lived in any of those? Have you ever been to any of those?
Denver and San Francisco, unless you're homeless.
Depends on the specific job. Academic will be on the lower side and private practice will be higher. I'm guessing that $150K is near the top of the salary range for PAs. There's no reason that a high earning PA can't earn a similar salary to an academic family med physician.
We can debate the specific numbers, but my point is that physicians accept lower salaries to work in NYC, and that docs get paid less in NYC than they would elsewhere. Do you disagree with this?
Everyone says Detroit is bad, but I don't think you can really understate how terrible it is.
It really depends on the person. For instance, I think Hollywood, CA is the most overrated city in the world and Irvine, CA is the greatest city in the world. Because Hollywood is just dirty people being dirty. And Irvine is just perfect in every way. Others say Hollywood is their dream city and Irvine is the most boring place on the planet.
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explain yourself wrote:
Austin?
Compare Austin to a city that you think is not overrated.
Waco is much nicer.
You have lost your mind!
dallas and fort worth area is the worst area ive been ever. no question
u are an error creator wrote:
if you think most people prefer the South to the West, then you are out of touch with reality. I have never heard one person NOT from the South say they prefer the South.
North African here living in Algeria , and I prefer the South to the West coast USA. I do prefer Utah or Wyoming to both, however.
Berlin... apart from its marathon I guess.
MohammedAA wrote:
u are an error creator wrote:
if you think most people prefer the South to the West, then you are out of touch with reality. I have never heard one person NOT from the South say they prefer the South.
North African here living in Algeria , and I prefer the South to the West coast USA. I do prefer Utah or Wyoming to both, however.
There are no cities in Wyoming.
Seattle. yes.
NYC. yes.
Austin. yes.
Portland? I dont know how Portland is even on this list? And not sure why anyone even considers it a BIG city. Living here is like living in a small town. You can easily run into many people you know on any given day. It has like 3 skyscrapers...people really need to focus on bigger places because the novelty of Portland wears off real fast unless you actually grew up in the PNW, trust me.
third world cities wrote:
Any city south of the Mason-Dixon and east of the Mississippi.
I would have to disagree. I've lived in the south and the north and the west. There's pros and cons to each. However, the cities in the south are affordable, clean (as much as a city really can be), little homelessness, great food, and solid weather.
I wouldn't pick the south over the west or the west over the south. I love the west, but it's also far more expensive than the south. So adjusting for costs I think they're about even.
Except San Francisco. Easily the most overrated city. Ridiculously expensive, dirty and smelly, homlessness everywhere, pretentious rich people, overpriced mediocre food, cold unswimmable beaches. SF is great to vacation to for a weekend or even a week. But living there is overrated.
Let it Rupp wrote:
Los Angeles.
The two LA's!
I flew into LAX about 5 years ago to go see the UCLA vs USC dual track meet which was being held at UCLA that year. So when I land I go out into the terminal with apprehension hearing how bad LAX is and I am pleasantly surprised. It wasn't crowded or hard to navigate , found baggage claim and got my bags, found the shuttle to Hertz Rent a Car lot rather easily. I then get off of the shuttle, walk into the building where rental counters are at and notice all the dream cars brilliantly displayed in front of the building. I easily get to my vehicle and drive off to Brentwood, go by Santa Monica pier, park there and walk around bit taking in the sites and although I was taken aback a little by the $20 dollars I had to pay to park at a meter on the street for 1 hour I didn't let it phase me. I then set off again and drive through the hills of Beverly and Bel Aire on my way to the track and am dumbfounded by the splendor of the houses and the terrain that they were built on. I get to UCLA, easily find my way to the track enjoy the meet drive back on the same route I took to get to the meet and stay at the LA Live Marriott which had some filming going in the plaza for what I thought was the new version of "24" so the crowds around the hotel were lively.
Now here is the flip side of the same trip. I wake up have to pay $45 dollars to get my rental car out of parking and then the Garmin unit takes me to LAX the Century Blvd. route and there's traffic at 7:00am in the morning on a Sunday and I'm thinking to myself is this the same city, it sure doesn't seem like the same city, what seemed scenic and new now seemed run down and lived in. I then go into the rental car return area of the Hertz rental lot and again I say to myself I was just here a day ago but it looks totally different. It seems the view from the front is totally different from the back, all shiny and spiffy up front and run down and dirty from the back. I get on the shuttle to the airport and there's traffic and then the shuttle driver forgets to stop at the airline I was flying out on and I have to take the whole ride again and the LAX that everyone says is terrible shows it's ugly morning face to me where it just looked so beautiful the day before.
I also remember a time when the USATF championships were being held in Long Beach and we had the choice to stay on the beach at the Westin or the Marriott for just $100.00 dollars a night due to the special rate for the meet but waited too long to make reservations and we ended up staying at a Holiday Inn in a place a friend of mines described as "The Jungle" where there was an armed security guard at the hotel who had to use his firearm during the night when someone tried to run him over.
I don't think Los Angeles is all that bad but you have to make sure you find the right LA because if you get the wrong one you could be in for some trouble!
sbeefyk2 wrote:
It really depends on the person. For instance, I think Hollywood, CA is the most overrated city in the world and Irvine, CA is the greatest city in the world. Because Hollywood is just dirty people being dirty. And Irvine is just perfect in every way. Others say Hollywood is their dream city and Irvine is the most boring place on the planet.
Now you are talking. I would say Irvine is my #1 underrated city. You don't hear much about Irvine, but it's awesome
a good outcome for everyone wrote:
##1 wrote:
None of those.
Mar-a Lago
Trump Towers
...
Anything owned by Trump
Don't worry, you could never live in any of those places even if you wanted to. It all works out.
Why would you want to live anyplace Trump branded? Are you a masochist?
Boulder Colorado.
Especially for running, it is the most overrated place to train.
Anyone that goes to Boulder to TRAIN is a moron.
It is inferior to every major altitude location in the US. It has the worst weather of every major altitude destination. (minus flagstaff, which gets pass because it's at REAL altitude).
The dirt roads are stupid and rekt.
The amount of sub-elite, B-string runners is a nightmare.
oh its gross wrote:
The amount of B-string runners is a nightmare.
Wait, tell me more . . .!
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!