Sudden Cardiac Arrest In Athletes can be prevented.

Head scratch wrote:

Getting medical advice on LR, is like getting spelling advice from Trump.

missilesilo wrote:

Or cheating off AOC during a Civics exam.

Forget the exam. Let's go back to my place and study. ; )

The more you know wrote:

Did you know you can make glucose from fat and protein?

They're better suited for creating more fat, uric acid that pulls calcium from the bones, and heart disease.

Why don't cats have weak bones? Because they EAT the raw bones of their victims.

The more you know wrote:

Did you know you can make glucose from fat and protein?

YMMV wrote:

Don't discourage the sugarplums with silly things like...physiology.

He's posting drivel like you do, so there's no chance of that.

YMMV wrote:

Don't discourage the sugarplums with silly things like...physiology.

Fad diets have always died rapid deaths. Everyone thinks they've discovered the real thing this time.

Truth is: a proper diet is boring for 99% of the population. But you won't get clicks to your blog or inflate your online ego like that.

Harambe wrote:

YMMV wrote:

Don't discourage the sugarplums with silly things like...physiology.

Truth is: a proper diet is boring for 99% of the population.

Well at least you got this right. The proper human-specific diet of "Drink water, eat meat...repeat" as was done by our ancestors for over 2.5 million years before agriculture, is indeed "...boring to 99% of the population". It in fact takes some discipline to resist and avoid the glut and variety of modern food products which only diminish health and eventually kill, not to with social and media pressures to conform to the status quo.

Those of us who understand evolution, biology, physiology and nutrition, and have the discipline to implement the necessary changes, are benefiting massively, and will continue to do so while fads such as plant-based, oil-sugar-and-starch-heavy death diets die off with all of their victims.

YMMV wrote:

Those of us who understand evolution, biology, physiology and nutrition, and have the discipline to implement the necessary changes, are benefiting massively, and will continue to do so while fads such as plant-based, oil-sugar-and-starch-heavy death diets die off with all of their victims.

You're 100% right about the effects of placebo on health. Keep on keepin on brotha

So what. wrote:

Run facts wrote:

I scheduled a doc appt and was referred to a cardiologist who confirmed that I have AF and a small hole in a chamber of my heart.

If you think them telling you that is going to help you, you're mistaken.

You are wrong though. If you are in Atrial Fib dude you can take medicine to restore normal rhythm, so it’s definitely a plus knowing.

Wrong wrong wrote:

If you are in Atrial Fib dude you can take medicine to restore normal rhythm, so it’s definitely a plus knowing.

Taking medicine does nothing to improve your heart function, nor your longevity.

So what. wrote:

Wrong wrong wrote:

If you are in Atrial Fib dude you can take medicine to restore normal rhythm, so it’s definitely a plus knowing.

Taking medicine does nothing to improve your heart function, nor your longevity.

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YMMV wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Truth is: a proper diet is boring for 99% of the population.

Well at least you got this right. The proper human-specific diet of "Drink water, eat meat...repeat" as was done by our ancestors for over 2.5 million years before agriculture, is indeed "...boring to 99% of the population". It in fact takes some discipline to resist and avoid the glut and variety of modern food products which only diminish health and eventually kill, not to with social and media pressures to conform to the status quo.

Those of us who understand evolution, biology, physiology and nutrition, and have the discipline to implement the necessary changes, are benefiting massively, and will continue to do so while fads such as plant-based, oil-sugar-and-starch-heavy death diets die off with all of their victims.

Agreed that SAD (Standard American Diet) will kill you sooner than paleo type diet....but there is a middle ground between heavy meat and heavy carbs low fat diets. The 4 areas of the world with the oldest living people, about 30X more centurions than average, all eat a diet of roughly 60% carbs (mostly veg and fruit, also evil bread and rice), the rest mostly healthy fats, and protein sparingly. These areas are in Okinawa Japan, Sardinia, Costa Rica and surprise surpise, Loma Linda CA, which is mostly vegetarian and of mixed race. If these people immigrate to America and eat SAD, they suffer and die early of typical disease like the rest of Americans (cardio vascular, diabetes etc), the epigenetic effects of a $4.99 1500 calorie lunch at Pizza Hut easily outweighs longevity genetics.

These people all have common traits which you can read about in various books and articles. First discovered by Nat Geographic in late 1980s i think. Aside from diet, some of the traits are:

- A sense of meaning and purpose to their life

- strong family and social ties

- regular exercise - No need for HIT, Sardians typically walked about 5 miles a day, hilly stuff, that's it. Same for Costa

Ricans.

- other basic tenets of health - no smoking or drugs, limited or no drinking

- some sort of belief system, religious or otherwise

There are two "blue zones" that have large, demographically diverse populations and are not quaint, mythical seaside hamlets, but major urban areas ith pollution stress, crowding and traffic stress, and are economically diverse: Hong Kong and Japan. Both have the highest life expectancy AND the highest meat/fish/egg consumption, eating as much as 50% more than the U.S..

http://truther10.blogspot.com/2016/06/hong-kong-world-longest-life-expectancy.html

Okinawa had improving life expectancy with increasing consumption of pork, both leveling off as pork availability plateaued. Japan has overtaken Okinawa as they increase meat consumption and egg consumption and are stalled out on seafood.

Asia gets it. Animals are food. Plants are an augmentation at best.

I am the only one posting legitimate stats as well as info relevant to the OP. The vegans just parade out their cut-and-paste BS.

The drivel I posted above is what happens to your brain when you eat too much meat.

just junk wrote:

Total junk article. Don't waste your time. Listing out individual symptoms that have many benign causes does not help anyone and certainly does not prevent cardiac arrest.

A key element is the availability of AED; although if the heart has stopped, an AED is useless. (Also, when someone "flat lines" in a tv show or movie, "shocking" them is not what you do.

YMMV wrote:

1) Eat a ketogenic diet. Animals are food, plants are drugs.

2) No carb-loading

3) Minimize sugar, maximize salt intake to taste during event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIV4nt1d6cc

And this has what to do with sudden cardiac arrest?

YMMV wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Truth is: a proper diet is boring for 99% of the population.

Well at least you got this right. The proper human-specific diet of "Drink water, eat meat...repeat" as was done by our ancestors for over 2.5 million years before agriculture, is indeed "...boring to 99% of the population". It in fact takes some discipline to resist and avoid the glut and variety of modern food products which only diminish health and eventually kill, not to with social and media pressures to conform to the status quo.

Those of us who understand evolution, biology, physiology and nutrition, and have the discipline to implement the necessary changes, are benefiting massively, and will continue to do so while fads such as plant-based, oil-sugar-and-starch-heavy death diets die off with all of their victims.

Our ancient ancestors ate whatever was available including plants and nuts and berries.

Luv2Run wrote:

Our ancient ancestors ate whatever was available including plants and nuts and berries.

Yes, I'm always disappointed how dumb it seems to say that one wants to eat paleolithically, and then include ANY restrictions at all.

How do you think paleolithical survivors ate, really?

By eating everything they could lay their hands on.

Luv2Run wrote:

YMMV wrote:

1) Eat a ketogenic diet. Animals are food, plants are drugs.

2) No carb-loading

3) Minimize sugar, maximize salt intake to taste during event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIV4nt1d6cc

And this has what to do with sudden cardiac arrest?

Go to 36:00-37:30 for a summary. Elsewhere he details cellular and organ-level mechanisms, in addition to hormonal benefits of controlling insulin levels.

Three prominent, long-term marathon/ultra guys who died of sudden cardiac death in their 40s and 50s as he describes were high-carb, long-term vegetarians (despite the case that non-veggies are the vast majority of runners, no one has been able to come up with a list of prominent omnivores suffering the same fate in 40+ ers). One of these vegetarians, 2:12 guy Brian Maxwell, invented the Power Bar, which is very high in sugar, essentially and "adult 'healthy' candy bar".

It was cases like this that made me start the switch from plant-based high-carb in my early 50s to low-carb/keto, then carnivore by my 50s/60s. All markers of inflammation plummeted, and I reversed serious Atrial Fibrillation, now ten years in remission, in addition to eliminatiing dangerous sleep apnea. There is no doubt in my mind that this change to a low-inflammation, low-insuligenic way of eating will add decades to my life-, and more importantly, health-span.

Elsewhere he also emphasizes the importance of salt over all other electrolytes, which can play a part in SADS.

Ok, get the AED, put it on them, listen for the prompts. Most witnessed pulseless collapses are of a ventricular fibrilation origin, which is shockable. You can't kill them any more and if someone shocks an asystole rhythm during a CPR pause, it's probably not going to hurt them any more.

The biggest point that needs to be made in this thread is that coaches and athletes alike should be trained in BLS and AED use. This would be a game changer.

I think a lot of the young athletes that go down are found post-mortem to have left ventricular hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. It would help if there were more screening tools such as echo-cardiogram to go along with physicals for athletes to screen out LVH, but that's an argument for the insurance companies.

Moral of the story -- learn BLS and AED use.