Kenya ashamedly in third position in doping list

From the article:

It also emerges that EPO is not the favourite poison for greedy Kenyan athletes who thirst for quick fame and fortune. The much-maligned blood booster has just three takers serving current bans with majority flagged for use of Norandrosterone.

Probably just goes to show how many more are taking EPO and getting away with it. There's no way those caught taking steroids wouldn't also be taking EPO.

No doubt, but confirms my long suspected belief steroids are more beneficial than people think it is for distance running. It makes sense to me. They're doing something very catabolic(breaking down). And with their training loads, often 100+ MPW and intense workouts. So they are going take something anaoblic(building up).

I wonder why the OP never has much to say about #1 or #2 on the list or the US with 17 athletes on the list. Hey, OP - how come the #1 country on the list does not have a bunch of athletes dominating the ranks of the the sport?

You need to compare it to the number of world-class athletes Kenya is putting out to get a sense of the scale of the problem. Kenya has more world-class middle and long distance runners than every other country so why wouldn't they have the highest number of doping cases?

There are more than 1.5 billion mobile phones in use in China, but that's expected since it's the most populated country in the world. Compare that to the UAE, which has more than 17 million mobile phones in use for its population of 8 million.

singularfocus wrote:

I wonder why the OP never has much to say about #1 or #2 on the list or the US with 17 athletes on the list. Hey, OP - how come the #1 country on the list does not have a bunch of athletes dominating the ranks of the the sport?

1 because I'm interested in middle-distance not sprinting.

2 Americans do dominate sprinting, and provide most of their track busts.

3 - I don't say so much about Russia because Russia is banned and doesn't dominate middle distance anyway. Stick to projectng your bestislity fantasies on to kids rather than debating me and bringing Russia into it, Casusl Observer will be more likely to side with you.Btw I also talk s lot about the GDR, probably more than anyone here does (except Casusl Observer who mentions GDR to claim West Germany and GB doped more and Coe took more roids than Koch).

4 - don't you feel ashamed that you accuse me of being a racist for posting a link that highlights how Kenyans themselves are ashamed of their doping problem?

Jeff Wigand wrote:

You need to compare it to the number of world-class athletes Kenya is putting out to get a sense of the scale of the problem. Kenya has more world-class middle and long distance runners than every other country so why wouldn't they have the highest number of doping cases?

There are more than 1.5 billion mobile phones in use in China, but that's expected since it's the most populated country in the world. Compare that to the UAE, which has more than 17 million mobile phones in use for its population of 8 million.

No, they have more world class athletes because they dope far more. More get caught DESPITE inferior testing.

Coevett wrote:

Probably just goes to show how many more are taking EPO and getting away with it. There's no way those caught taking steroids wouldn't also be taking EPO.

Great point; EPO/blood doping is generally used in conjunction with low doses of androgens and/or HGH. It's been the cocktail of choice for distance runners for decades.

Also, the article states that Bett was banned for "refusing to submit samples for testing," though I thought he was banned for testing positive for EPO?

Juiced to the gills wrote:

No doubt, but confirms my long suspected belief steroids are more beneficial than people think it is for distance running. It makes sense to me. They're doing something very catabolic(breaking down). And with their training loads, often 100+ MPW and intense workouts. So they are going take something anaoblic(building up).

Naturally. We know that since Baumann and Decker.

But let's not forget "Joyce Chepkurui, Abraham Kiptum, Cyrus Rutto and Sarah Chephirchir have been flagged for Athlete Biological Passport offences." That brings the number of caught blood dopers up to seven.

Most likely they used the more convenient EPO than messy blood transfusions, judged their glowing time accurately but failed to properly consider their off-score jumps.

EPO and, earlier, test evasion:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-athletics-kenya/athletics-bett-latest-kenyan-athlete-to-test-positive-for-epo-idUSKCN1L91U2

I am still laughing.

Nothing to be ashamed about.

I remember when USA, Russia, and Great Britain were 1-2-3 on the doping list as countries.

As a matter of fact, Great Britain is currently 1 in Cycling, and USA in martial arts.

mooonshot wrote:

Nothing to be ashamed about.

I remember when USA, Russia, and Great Britain were 1-2-3 on the doping list as countries.

As a matter of fact, Great Britain is currently 1 in Cycling, and USA in martial arts.

List all the British cyclists currently serving drug bans please?

trollism wrote:

mooonshot wrote:

Nothing to be ashamed about.

I remember when USA, Russia, and Great Britain were 1-2-3 on the doping list as countries.

As a matter of fact, Great Britain is currently 1 in Cycling, and USA in martial arts.

List all the British cyclists currently serving drug bans please?

But surely they are doing something nefarious

Subway Surfers wrote:

trollism wrote:

List all the British cyclists currently serving drug bans please?

But surely they are doing something nefarious

Maybe. I guess all the evidence is there given all the Kenyan drug busts recently.

(That's how it works isn't it, the more Kenyans get popped, the worse British cyclists are?)

trollism wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

But surely they are doing something nefarious

Maybe. I guess all the evidence is there given all the Kenyan drug busts recently.

(That's how it works isn't it, the more Kenyans get popped, the worse British cyclists are?)

There's no hurry.

We waited a long time for the Kenyan dopers to start getting caught. I don't mind waiting for your "clean" western heroes to start falling too.