Allie O and Karisa Nelson join Brooks Beasts

I wish Allie O the best. I do not think she can improve enough in the Steeple by next year to threaten to make the team. Right now the Marathon has a lot of potential women who could make the top three, but with injuries and inconsistent results the only one right now that looks solid is Emily Sisson. Allie O should give the marathon a go for now, anything can happen in Atlanta as it is not a fast flat course. The Ray Treacy group would have been a better fit for her but maybe there was no offer. If Allie stays healthy the Marathon will be her event.

I agree that she seems opinionated in a childish sort of way. It's not so much her looks that make her seem young but her mannerisms.

A couple years then med school.

If she wants to work the mountain running aspect of her career, Seattle is a good choice.

Allie is the best signee that the Beasts have ever had.

1. She can produce media buzz on the track or roads or cross-country.

This makes her far more marketable than someone that is just track.

2. She is American. Any athlete that can not run in US Championships is borderline useless. No Olympic Trials and then goes and wears another brand for the Olympics and can’t market them during the games.

Not a Beasts Fan wrote:

Allie is the best signee that the Beasts have ever had.

Ever heard of Cas Loxsom?

broken arrow wrote:

The Ray Treacy group would have been a better fit for her but maybe there was no offer.

I'm also guessing that was further away from home than she wanted...this has seemed to factor into her decision making in the past based on the schools she visited as well.

we are... wrote:

Not a Beasts Fan wrote:

Allie is the best signee that the Beasts have ever had.

Ever heard of Cas Loxsom?

Um, didn't Cas have an affair with one of the coaches wives? I'm pretty sure they regret signing him.

Besides, he never won an NCAA title, Allie has won 3.

Wild Duck Whisperer wrote:

broken arrow wrote:

The Ray Treacy group would have been a better fit for her but maybe there was no offer.

I'm also guessing that was further away from home than she wanted...this has seemed to factor into her decision making in the past based on the schools she visited as well.

this^

Just getting an Alaskan to stay in the lower 48 is a big ask. Most stick pretty close to the Oregon/Washington i-5 corridor.

Any one suggesting that she is getting 100 or 200K annually is nuts. She was a fine NCAA runner in a week NCAA field. Her steeple PR is about 45 seconds slower than the World Record. A comparable male NCAA steepler with a 45-second differential would have a PR of about 8:38 PR. That is a fine collegiate time but 38 seconds slower than Jager. Is any professional group going to pay an NCAA male steepler who turns pro $100 or $200K a year when his PR is about 8:38 and 38 seconds slower than the top American runner? Seriously? Someone said $100K for 3 years which I could find believable. She may not be a world beater but seems very likeable and kind of an underdog runner because of her small stature.

It’s my contention that there will be nobody ever on the Brooks Beasts team representing the USA that will ever make an Olympic Team (Kerr I think will but he doesn’t represent Team USA). I know Windle medaled in a watered down Indoor WC 800 in 2018 where Murphy’s Law was in full effect, but if you think about the Olympics in 2020 there is nobody on that current roster who has any shot. Allie O as a 3-time NCAA Champ in the Steeple and somebody who has been so consistent should NOT be on that team of great athletes, but never Olympians. Just my opinion of course but I think she should have heightened her training group ceiling.

Kind of bullsh*t that they are bringing on these athletes while simultaneously slashing contracts with many of the ID athletes and athletes that have recently placed well on the national stage.

Not a Beasts Fan wrote:

Allie is the best signee that the Beasts have ever had.

1. She can produce media buzz on the track or roads or cross-country.

This makes her far more marketable than someone that is just track.

2. She is American. Any athlete that can not run in US Championships is borderline useless. No Olympic Trials and then goes and wears another brand for the Olympics and can’t market them during the games.

THIS IS 100% CORRECT.

2 indoor and 5 outdoor track meets is not enough press.

Add

6-8 road races and 2-3 cross-country races and now you have something

A track athlete is not enough by itself and if it is a foreign athlete it is even worse.

Run Fast Make Big wrote:

Guessing $100k total across 3 years.

Really? That's waitress money. I assume she has her degree?

Sally Vix wrote:

Any one suggesting that she is getting 100 or 200K annually is nuts. She was a fine NCAA runner in a week NCAA field. Her steeple PR is about 45 seconds slower than the World Record. A comparable male NCAA steepler with a 45-second differential would have a PR of about 8:38 PR. That is a fine collegiate time but 38 seconds slower than Jager. Is any professional group going to pay an NCAA male steepler who turns pro $100 or $200K a year when his PR is about 8:38 and 38 seconds slower than the top American runner? Seriously? Someone said $100K for 3 years which I could find believable. She may not be a world beater but seems very likeable and kind of an underdog runner because of her small stature.

Your analysis is about as useful as the political nonsense you spew. Do you even run?

Rather than compare times against world records look at National rankings or iaaf scoring charts. Allie’s 9:31 is equivalent to 8:20 for men. That’d be significantly fast for a recent 22 yr old college grad.

At the very least compare by percent not overall time.

Actually, I do run. 85 miles a week all of last year at the age of 58 and after Div 1. Do you run?

her times compare pretty closely to Grant Fisher's in reality......

truth^ wrote:

IAAF score you moran wrote:

Your analysis is about as useful as the political nonsense you spew. Do you even run?

Rather than compare times against world records look at National rankings or iaaf scoring charts. Allie’s 9:31 is equivalent to 8:20 for men. That’d be significantly fast for a recent 22 yr old college grad.

At the very least compare by percent not overall time.

her times compare pretty closely to Grant Fisher's in reality......

I want to compare absolute time differences. She is 45 seconds off the World Record. Take a 3000 meter male runner. I am again talking absolute times. Runner Jose is 45 seconds of the World Record of 7:20. So he has run 8:05. A fine time but hardly one that will set the running world on fire. Who is giving Jose $100K to join their program?

There are 50 COLLEGIANS who have run 7:57 or better. Is anyone going to really pay Jose $100K since he ran an 8:05?

Seattle?

How long until Jamin is devastated, head down, pounding tables after races?