get the Raid wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
I’m not the troll. I was the OP that posted the story.
Help Golden Girl with that order for the gents at the register.
Figured as much, was referring to your stalker, whom the brojos should ban.
Igy thinks every post is about him.
sponsor big daddy wrote:
She will get only a small stipend at this point. Just because she is as fast as other Americans were in college doesn't mean that she will become a 9 minute steepler. The 3 top American women make her look like a little girl on the track. I bet she gets almost nothing at this point. She could have raised her stock had she stayed and won XC and improved to 9:20.
Quigley's college best was 9:29. Stop acting like there's been a history of 9:10 female collegiate steeplers.
this is idiotic wrote:
sponsor big daddy wrote:
She will get only a small stipend at this point. Just because she is as fast as other Americans were in college doesn't mean that she will become a 9 minute steepler. The 3 top American women make her look like a little girl on the track. I bet she gets almost nothing at this point. She could have raised her stock had she stayed and won XC and improved to 9:20.
This wins idiotic post of 2019 thus far - no small feat! Congratulations, "sponsor big daddy" !
AllieO is most definitely one of the more marketable female runners to go pro in quite awhile, and will definitely be getting far more than a "small stipend." Note that marketability is not solely linked to PRs. Allie is versatile over many events/distances, she has a fun personality, and she probably has more Insta followers than any other recent runner to go pro - meaning, she will help SELL product (the main goal by most sponsors).
Agree with the above - in my opinion, AllieO has more potential to move product than many other recent female runners to turn pro. For example, my 10th grade daughter is fairly new to XC and running - but she knows who Allie Ostrander is, but had never heard of Courtney Frerichs, Quigley, or Alexa Efraimson. (She did know of many others that I also asked about on a long car ride this morning, including Hasay, Flanagan, and Coburn - in fact, she said "everyone knows Jordan Hasay" ). Anyhow, its scary, but kids like my daughter are definitely the target of Nike, NB, etc...
She is popular because she is winning. How much face tine did she get at the Pre meet? If she runs a few more steeples in 9:30, we will forget about her. Predicting she gets a 3 year contract at $40k per year and then becomes a marathoner and switches sponsors. Runners just don't generate additional sales.
General response to those questioning why she would go pro...
6th All Time NCAA Steeple (behind Frerichs, Coburn, Quigley, Simpson (Barringer))
10th All Time NCAA 10,000 (behind behind Sisson, Hasay, Kipyego)
7th All Time NCAA 5,000 Indoor (behind Sisson, Smith Kurgat, Kelati)
Anyone questioning why she would go pro is an idiot.
Sponsor big daddy wrote:
She is popular because she is winning. How much face tine did she get at the Pre meet? If she runs a few more steeples in 9:30, we will forget about her. Predicting she gets a 3 year contract at $40k per year and then becomes a marathoner and switches sponsors. Runners just don't generate additional sales.
40K? We pay interns more than that, and they don't do jack $h|t. Are professional runners allowed to be sponsored by banks or other firms? Is it possible for AllieO (or some other runner) to be sponsored by Tiffany's, or by JP Morgan? Can she be sponsored by Starbucks? She already has the nose ring... Can she have a singlet with a Starbucks logo on it? I'd imagine Starbucks would sponsor her at 100K+ without even thinking about it.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Golden Lady wrote:
Someone offers you constructive criticism and you reply with an insult. Your self-image must really be in the dumps.
No, I can’t stand a smart a$$, especially when they’re wrong. Better get back to your barista job before the bosses catches you goofing off.
Today you're the smartass.
Davey wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
No, I can’t stand a smart a$$, especially when they’re wrong. Better get back to your barista job before the bosses catches you goofing off.
Today you're the smartass.
Sorry, can’t help it. I imagine the response coming from a 20 something who talks with a creaky voice. Always correcting someone else when they’re actually wrong. “Ya know, the word is pronounced “thime.” (When talking about the herb thyme).
SCIIG wrote:
get the Raid wrote:
Figured as much, was referring to your stalker, whom the brojos should ban.
Igy thinks every post is about him.
SCIIG = Scary Crazy Igy Infatuated Guy (hard to believe how many registered handles this nut job has)
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
SCIIG = Scary Crazy Igy Infatuated Guy (hard to believe how many registered handles this nut job has)
How many?
Dozen or more.
Sponsor big daddy wrote:
She is popular because she is winning. How much face tine did she get at the Pre meet? If she runs a few more steeples in 9:30, we will forget about her. Predicting she gets a 3 year contract at $40k per year and then becomes a marathoner and switches sponsors. Runners just don't generate additional sales.
As already stated, there are many benefits for going pro now, as her marketable is not going to increase next year; it can only decrease. At best, she wins NCAAs again but fails to PR until the summer racing season, as she is not going to go sub 9:30 without competition. If she wants to go pro, why wait until next year?
The reality is that a 9:30 steeper in the USA is still top tier, and even if she improves only a little each year, she will stay relevant enough to keep sponsors.
I do disagree with the people saying she has a shot at the world team this year, however.
It is worth pointing out that she had quite possibly the worst coach in the country at Boise. Ihmels ruined every other talented athlete at that school except Allie (and he came close to ruining her a few times - remember when she had to DNF at indoor nationals due to an injury).
If Allie was able to run this fast under that clown, she should certainly improve a ton with a real coach.
CDA wrote:
Sponsor big daddy wrote:
She is popular because she is winning. How much face tine did she get at the Pre meet? If she runs a few more steeples in 9:30, we will forget about her. Predicting she gets a 3 year contract at $40k per year and then becomes a marathoner and switches sponsors. Runners just don't generate additional sales.
As already stated, there are many benefits for going pro now, as her marketable is not going to increase next year; it can only decrease. At best, she wins NCAAs again but fails to PR until the summer racing season, as she is not going to go sub 9:30 without competition. If she wants to go pro, why wait until next year?
The reality is that a 9:30 steeper in the USA is still top tier, and even if she improves only a little each year, she will stay relevant enough to keep sponsors.
I do disagree with the people saying she has a shot at the world team this year, however.
They are taking four this year, so you have Coburn, Frerichs, and Quigley as locks, but after that it's wide open and AllieO and Mel Lawrence seem to be the closest. Stephanie Garcia has run fast but hasn't competed outdoors this year. It will probably take a 9:25-9:30 to make the fourth spot, but that depends on weather.
she survived boise wrote:
It is worth pointing out that she had quite possibly the worst coach in the country at Boise. Ihmels ruined every other talented athlete at that school except Allie (and he came close to ruining her a few times - remember when she had to DNF at indoor nationals due to an injury).
If Allie was able to run this fast under that clown, she should certainly improve a ton with a real coach.
Curious as someone who knows nothing about Ihmels, what is so bad about him? Who are examples of athletes he ruined?
Clearly the best American distance runner coming out of the college ranks. I believe she had the fastest 10,000 going into the NCAA meet, and one of the top 5,000 meters. Made the 2016 Olympic Trials 5,000 as a freshman. Pretty good. No, really good. The money thing is not the real issue, she just deserves enough support to compete for an Olympic spot.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Clearly the best American distance runner coming out of the college ranks. I believe she had the fastest 10,000 going into the NCAA meet, and one of the top 5,000 meters. Made the 2016 Olympic Trials 5,000 as a freshman. Pretty good. No, really good. The money thing is not the real issue, she just deserves enough support to compete for an Olympic spot.
Agreed!
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Clearly the best American distance runner coming out of the college ranks. I believe she had the fastest 10,000 going into the NCAA meet, and one of the top 5,000 meters. Made the 2016 Olympic Trials 5,000 as a freshman. Pretty good. No, really good. The money thing is not the real issue, she just deserves enough support to compete for an Olympic spot.
The best? Maybe. But it makes sense for her to go pro given that she already earned her degree. What’s the point of staying in a place like Boise when she can get paid to tour the world?
Coyote Montane wrote:
[quote]CDA wrote:
[quote]Sponsor big daddy wrote:
They are taking four this year, so you have Coburn, Frerichs, and Quigley as locks, but after that it's wide open and AllieO and Mel Lawrence seem to be the closest. Stephanie Garcia has run fast but hasn't competed outdoors this year. It will probably take a 9:25-9:30 to make the fourth spot, but that depends on weather.
Any Evan Jaeger news?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HbIOnP96H0dirty dirt wrote:
She's running Mount Marathon this week. I'd love to see her commit even part-time to the ultra trail scene.
She could be untouchable in mountain running. I said mountain running, not ultra running.