Semenya is losing it

Stoppit Smith wrote:

But she's not 100% anything.

Her genital ambiguity is enough to render her female.

Free_the_thigh wrote:

Glad to know I can compete in the female division of track meets (despite being 100%) male, and no one can complain I have an advantage and shouldn’t be allowed to because I can’t beat the women’s world record time.

Why does her genital ambiguity not render her male? You keep throwing "science" out there like you know something. At what point, exactly, does "science" categorize someone as male? Please be specific.

49.9/1:54/3:59 - she's certainly unique.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Sports don't have the right to override what science designates.

Asker of the important questions wrote:

I think you are getting the words science / scientific mixed up with the words social / society, probably willfully so there isn't really much I can add here. I was just pointing out your error as I thought you'd misunderstood the facts.

As far as the actual sporting debate goes though the lack of overian tissue means that Semenya can never be true intersex.

This is a very stupid thing to say because this is the entire basis of the whole should / shouldn't Semenya be allowed to compete argument.

Again you have mixed up science / society designates but of course in a society sense Semenya should be free to identify however she likes. But giving her that freedom in sporting sense takes away the rights of a heck of a lot more people.

And that is exactly what the IAAF is trying to protect - the rights of sports to override what society designates.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

In 2015, when she beat Ajee by 15 meters, tell me how that is a country mile?

Explain how she has never even gotten a sniff at Kratochvilova's 1:53 and change,being a second over that.

Is this really your evidence that she should stop or are you just being discriminatory?

You'd best decide

You're missing the point. Right now, she and Caitlyn Jenner are almost biological equals. Semenya has testes, Jenner doesn't.

Kratochvilova was a drug cheat. Likely Marlise Gohr was too. There were a lot of dopers back then. Governments were involved. Some of it was political. The Olympic movement was corrupt - as it is today. But they were doped XX women. Not XY women.

Semenya has no female internals and She has internal testes. If Jenner was 26 years old and just recovered from surgery, no one would accept him racing in the women's events. Especially if he'd left on his bag of tricks. No one one would call it fair. Yet you expect Semenya to attract no ire?

She claims to want to run as a woman - but with testes.

Ajee Wilson doesn't get to add a testosterone booster. She's at a handicap.

XX women are getting dq'd if they artificially raise their testosterone level to a fraction of the level she finds normal. She is high for a man, let alone a woman.

This is an athletic thing. Not a social thing. She shouldn't be able to compete in XX races at all.