British gold medalist & ‘sports icon’ implicated in blood doping

vlad's not so bad wrote:

I don't know a ton about Putin, but just about every time I listen to his public comments / speeches on YouTube I tend to agree with the things that he says. He's extremely pragmatic and sensible. Of course, these are just words coming out of his mouth. The things that he does might be different, but I don't know enough about those things to comment. But the point is that I have a hard time finding fault in ideas and concepts he promotes in his public appearances. That's only true for probably 40% of the US politicians I hear and about 1% of the other Euro politicians I hear.

nopisdopeforareason wrote:

Rupp was doing/using whatever Mo was doing as they ran away from the field on the last lap.

If Rupp had been doped he'd have probably have beaten Mo, as everyone said Rupp seemed to have more speed than Mo - until Mo would take his trips to the motherland, to the mountains, where the other dopers were training. But you know this already.

Yeah let's take away Mo's medals and records and give them to some Rosa-coached "teenagers" instead. What progress!

I don't know who did or didn't dope but, let's be real here..

Gold = fame and fortune

Silver/Bronze = modest fame particularly if you're representing a western nation.

Any other result = food stamps or flipping burgers for a living if you're a westerner or raising goats if you're not.

Why WOULDN'T the average athlete risk it????

uyner wrote:

https://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/british-gold-medalist-sports-icon-implicated-in-blood-doping/

Is this the beginning of the end?

I heard rupp and mo were given adrenaline shots in the neck before the 10k final. Not illegal but strange.

We've merged 2 threads into 1.

touche douche wrote:

Epsilon Semi-moron wrote:

Sure, Putin's actually a pretty good guy. Just ask the numerous people he's had murdered; they won't utter a word of disagreement.

FFS, man, are you freaking literally retarded?

FFS, Do you think Obama, Bush, Clinton murdered any less??

Oh, right, THAT line of reasoning (straight from the Trump playbook). Nobody's evil, because everybody's evil when it comes down to it. Obama was just as bad as Stalin, right? There is no difference between Attila the Hun and Elizabeth Warren, right?

Look, I'm a naturalized American who thinks American history is largely a long series of travesties. I'm about as cynical regarding human nature as a person can get. But making Putin out to be a decent guy at the end of the day - no better or worse than anybody else - is idiotic.

Epsilon Semi-moron wrote:

touche douche wrote:

FFS, Do you think Obama, Bush, Clinton murdered any less??

Oh, right, THAT line of reasoning (straight from the Trump playbook). Nobody's evil, because everybody's evil when it comes down to it. Obama was just as bad as Stalin, right? There is no difference between Attila the Hun and Elizabeth Warren, right?

Look, I'm a naturalized American who thinks American history is largely a long series of travesties. I'm about as cynical regarding human nature as a person can get. But making Putin out to be a decent guy at the end of the day - no better or worse than anybody else - is idiotic.

Why did you go to The States if you dislike it sö much? That isn't making any sence.

Of course it's a troll piece. They claim to be astonished by the doping and nobody in this age would be.

Epsilon Semi-moron wrote:

touche douche wrote:

FFS, Do you think Obama, Bush, Clinton murdered any less??

Oh, right, THAT line of reasoning (straight from the Trump playbook). Nobody's evil, because everybody's evil when it comes down to it. Obama was just as bad as Stalin, right? There is no difference between Attila the Hun and Elizabeth Warren, right?

Look, I'm a naturalized American who thinks American history is largely a long series of travesties. I'm about as cynical regarding human nature as a person can get. But making Putin out to be a decent guy at the end of the day - no better or worse than anybody else - is idiotic.

The situation for Putin is completely different than for any American president. Russia requires a strong leader, and yes, somebody willing to have traitors and clear enemies of the State bumped off if necessary. Imagine if the USA had lost the Cold War, lost 30% of it's territory, become a lawless gangster's paradise as it lurched suddenly from 80 years of State Communism to a complete free market jungle with no regulations and foreign 'investors' descending upon it like a pack of wolves. The USA has no equivalent of the Southern Caucasus problem, which makes the US/Mexico border situation look like a cake walk. There is simply no way Russia could have a 'nice' virtue signalling liberal social democratic type leader like Tony Blair or Obama at this point or any time soon. Such a leader likely wouldn't survive long, and the chaos generated would produce something far worse than Putin.

Putin cares about his people. He's way more loved by his people than any Western leader is. Most of the people he has had murdered have been real traitors and in the pay of foreign enemies who would like to see Russia dismembered and turned into a tranny whore house. Meanwhile, Obama routinely had foreign enemies dispatched with drones and the like, while starting wars that have led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands and destabalized entire regions perhaps for centuries, whilst breeding the same environment in his own country and Europe by open doors policy to Third World migrants.

No mo cheating wrote:

BergLaufer wrote:

Well if he doesn't get caught up in this scandal, will he move up to gold? And Bekele will move up to bronze or silver(if Rupp gets brought down with mo). Has two brothers ever went 1 and 2 at the Olympics?

Great question.

Brothers have already gone 1 and 1 in the olympics.

Twins Mike and Bob Bryan won doubles tennis in London.

thered be no elite sport in britain if all the cheaters got exposed.im not so sure the cheating is headed up by coe.they were doping up to the teeth,long before coe took over.

This is just the quote from the Russian fancy bears leak years ago.

Diack is currently on trial for fraud they are not interested in blood doping unless a bribe was paid.

Old news

ukathleticscoach wrote:

This is just the quote from the Russian fancy bears leak years ago.

Diack is currently on trial for fraud they are not interested in blood doping unless a bribe was paid.

Old news

Seems a bribe would be associated with such a matter, especially considering Diack's proclivity for such sordid activity. Of course, maybe he gave away a freebie?

Coevett wrote:

Meanwhile, Obama routinely had foreign enemies dispatched with drones and the like, while starting wars that have led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands and destabalized entire regions perhaps for centuries, whilst breeding the same environment in his own country and Europe by open doors policy to Third World migrants.

Beep - lie found.

Jejjsjsj wrote:

3 British gold medalists in 2012

Rutherford: LJ. I have never heard of blood doping in the LJ

Ennis: Heptathlon. Again, never heard of blood doping in that event

Mo Farah: 5000/10000

Why did they simply name him by name?

There's one high profile case of a Heptathlete who served a ban for ABP hematological anomalies: Ukrainian Lyudmyla Yosypenko (4th @ London, 2012 EC silver):

If indeed this report bears scrutiny, and it is Farah who is the suspected athlete, does it then open up the Oregon Project to renewed skepticism? What was the extent of Al Sal's involvement in Farah's coaching leading up to London 2012?

Brianruns10 wrote:

If indeed this report bears scrutiny, and it is Farah who is the suspected athlete, does it then open up the Oregon Project to renewed skepticism? What was the extent of Al Sal's involvement in Farah's coaching leading up to London 2012?

Why would it? I have no doubt NOP skirts the line. I do question the credibility/motives of NOP accusers.. especially the ones who benefitted from the program, fell off, then decided to act nobly. People were quiet until those Nike checks stopped rolling in.

You do realize that Mo was basically with NOP in name, right? Salazar wrote the workouts, while Jama held the rig— I mean held the stopwatch. Has Salazar ever been to Africa? Spain? Somewhere in the mountains between?

Everyone acts like Salazar tainted Farah’s reputation but if you pay attention to Farah’s innumerable instances of shady behavior, lies and suspect whereabouts it’s pretty damned clear Farah acted way beyond any potential NOP grey area dragging NOP/Salazar’s already shady reputation along behind him.

I hope this all crashes down around Mo “the fainting GOAT” Farah.

Where is that mongoloid Tony the Tiger anyway?