Centro reveals why he left NOP

I think Centro gives great interviews. He has more personality and character than a lot of athletes I see interviewed.

Also like Gault said, he seems to be telling the truth. I love when he asked the reporter what other group he could have gone to, it cracked me up. Obviously Centro is doing what he thinks is best for him and his career.

David S wrote:

Still doesn't really make sense to me.

So BTC is a better fit than NOP because he has more potential training partners there? If so why didn't he just say that?

He won Olympic gold and then decided it was time for another direction? If he had Alberto's system down and it works for him then why not stick with it and Alberto?

If something is working for you, why change it up?

Centro does not fw Clayton at all. take that as you wish

keeping it fresh wrote:

David S wrote:

Still doesn't really make sense to me.

So BTC is a better fit than NOP because he has more potential training partners there? If so why didn't he just say that?

He won Olympic gold and then decided it was time for another direction? If he had Alberto's system down and it works for him then why not stick with it and Alberto?

If something is working for you, why change it up?

If you've ever been in a system for half a decade, the workouts, the standard workouts can get boring. You psychologically start to be able to predict them, and get too comfortable.

Mixing it up and perhaps working on "different parts of your game" keeps it fresher, and ultimately more enjoyable, even, more fun.

If you goal is to be entertained and amused, that's fine. But if you goal is to win gold then personally I'd stick with what is working. I think many of the best of the best in any endeavor will tell you excellence is a grind. Master the basics.

What did Bruce lee say: I fear not the man who has practiced 10000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10000 times.

Yeah things really weren't going well with NOP after winning his first diamond league and running what? 333 last year?

bruce lee wrote:

keeping it fresh wrote:

If you've ever been in a system for half a decade, the workouts, the standard workouts can get boring. You psychologically start to be able to predict them, and get too comfortable.

Mixing it up and perhaps working on "different parts of your game" keeps it fresher, and ultimately more enjoyable, even, more fun.

If you goal is to be entertained and amused, that's fine. But if you goal is to win gold then personally I'd stick with what is working. I think many of the best of the best in any endeavor will tell you excellence is a grind. Master the basics.

What did Bruce lee say: I fear not the man who has practiced 10000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10000 times.

He's running, not kicking a board. If you don't change the stimulus you get adapted to it and stop improving.

try this? wrote:

bruce lee wrote:

If you goal is to be entertained and amused, that's fine. But if you goal is to win gold then personally I'd stick with what is working. I think many of the best of the best in any endeavor will tell you excellence is a grind. Master the basics.

What did Bruce lee say: I fear not the man who has practiced 10000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10000 times.

He's running, not kicking a board. If you don't change the stimulus you get adapted to it and stop improving.

But how much can you improve on 330-3:31?

David S wrote:

If something is working for you, why change it up?

Like so many of my coworkers, you sound like an innovative, wise man, David.

Chot wrote:

Baseball Ain't a Sport wrote:

So, so much smoke. Centro is a doping cheater, that is a fact. Mo is a doping cheater, that is a fact. Rupp is a doping cheater, that is a fact.

It kind of shocks me when people say these things. How do you know this with enough certainty to make statements like this?

Some posters here think they coulda woulda shoulda beena bigshot, if they had doped. They can't accept the reality that they don't have what it takes mentally to make it to the top.

workplace violence wrote:

David S wrote:

If something is working for you, why change it up?

Like so many of my coworkers, you sound like an innovative, wise man, David.

This is why I am skeptical on his response. Props to Matt for interviewing well but the only thing that wasn't going well at NOP were the accusations. Other than that...seems like everyone's running pretty well over there.

David S wrote:

He won Olympic gold and then decided it was time for another direction? If he had Alberto's system down and it works for him then why not stick with it and Alberto?

He won Olympic gold in 2016.

2017 he was DFL in the heats at the World Championships.

2018 he lost to a 17 year-old and finished 7th in his best race.

He has not been a gold medal level runner the last two years, nor any color medal. I can understand the need to change things up.

HOOWIE wrote:

workplace violence wrote:

Like so many of my coworkers, you sound like an innovative, wise man, David.

This is why I am skeptical on his response. Props to Matt for interviewing well but the only thing that wasn't going well at NOP were the accusations. Other than that...seems like everyone's running pretty well over there.

Many times I've left secure well-paying jobs to change things up, usually at about 5 years. Why would running be any different? I get where Centrowitz is coming from.

HOOWIE wrote:

Yeah things really weren't going well with NOP after winning his first diamond league and running what? 333 last year?

The 1500m at London was not a Diamond League event. Note there is no diamond listed next to it.

I know. He hasn’t even run a sub 3:50 mile yet has he?

timemachine wrote:

David S wrote:

He won Olympic gold and then decided it was time for another direction? If he had Alberto's system down and it works for him then why not stick with it and Alberto?

He won Olympic gold in 2016.

2017 he was DFL in the heats at the World Championships.

2018 he lost to a 17 year-old and finished 7th in his best race.

He has not been a gold medal level runner the last two years, nor any color medal. I can understand the need to change things up.

Yeah but the rumors were that he took a break after the Olympics, his 2017 results were not because of NOP. Ran 3:31 in 2018 and won USAs. I think he's the kind of guy who does best off of a slow pace, so I'm not expecting him to win a lot of diamond league meets. Maybe that's something he could improve.

Didn't realize he'd been at NOP for 5 years, time flies!

David S wrote:

timemachine wrote:

He won Olympic gold in 2016.

2017 he was DFL in the heats at the World Championships.

2018 he lost to a 17 year-old and finished 7th in his best race.

He has not been a gold medal level runner the last two years, nor any color medal. I can understand the need to change things up.

Yeah but the rumors were that he took a break after the Olympics, his 2017 results were not because of NOP. Ran 3:31 in 2018 and won USAs. I think he's the kind of guy who does best off of a slow pace, so I'm not expecting him to win a lot of diamond league meets. Maybe that's something he could improve.

Didn't realize he'd been at NOP for 5 years, time flies!

"his 2017 results were not because of NOP"

What a joke. 2017 and 2018 happened while he was at NOP. He was not running like one of the best in the world. To say he shouldn't leave after a gold medal is ridiculous - he didn't leave until 2 sub par years later.

if i remember correctly there was a lot of "heat" on centro after rio. he did the whole vague half apology and defended himself....and no one knew what he was talking about...then a few weeks later it was said he had an injury.

it was also around the same time ruppy poop was supposedly in super good shape crushed that half, then silence then a slow chicago, then claimed he was going through a calf or achillies injury. im too lazy to search the threads but there was a moment where people really thought centro was about to be banned, busted, etc...and then the rupp thing. when the heat gets on the NOP runners they usually run slow, have an injury or both till the heat goes away.

- the poster formally known as m!ndweak

Nathaniel wrote:

Well I imagine Centro got tired of all the doping allegations. Mo probaby did too. Where there is smoke, there is fire, and there was a lot of smoke.

Then why would he go to BTC to avoid doping allegations?

Because BTC isn’t coached by AlSal.

sleazazar wrote:

Because BTC isn’t coached by AlSal.

It's like everyone just forgot that Jager was listed as "likely doping" on that leaked biological passport report a year or two ago - in fact his samples were glowing higher than any NOP member. The idea that BTC is any "cleaner" than NOP is laughable.

And as to the drunken gibberish above from Mindweak, there was no "heat" on Centro, and he never "apologized" for anything. You don't have "heat" on you after running a 3:50 1500m.