1.5 cents wrote:
Rob Krar like 15 years ago ran Boston and was 2:25, he ran a 14:48 in a brutally hot 2015, other OTQ runners haven't touched that time minus this year.
Oh come on, krar ran 800 meters when he was younger. He clearly is a speedster regardless of whether he's ever put up an accurate marathon time.
turn it in wrote:
rojo wrote:
89 miles?All the way around 495 is 89 miles? I would have guessed way less.
Why in the hell did he do that?
Probably has gone mad.
You ever think his family looks at him like...Mike, dear god..what are you doing tomorrow morning?
"Oh ya know, just going for an FKT on the Beltway on a 95 degree day, next weekend I am looking to set the I-95 FKT, then heading over to the Middle East next month, this guy told me I can hover board across the Red Sea, should be an FKT attempt, going to be so rad.."
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weather FTW wrote:
1.5 cents wrote:
Rob Krar like 15 years ago ran Boston and was 2:25, he ran a 14:48 in a brutally hot 2015, other OTQ runners haven't touched that time minus this year.
Oh come on, krar ran 800 meters when he was younger. He clearly is a speedster regardless of whether he's ever put up an accurate marathon time.
Oh absolutely. Krar is the man. I was simply using that as a benchmark, not every WS stud is some near sub 2:10. His running pedigree was mid distance, which may be a surprise to many. His 14:48 is top WS performance over the years.
They need to run the course in the opposite direction. It's basically a downhill race. Why do they run slow when they have gravity assisting them?
zebo wrote:
They need to run the course in the opposite direction. It's basically a downhill race. Why do they run slow when they have gravity assisting them?
Try running on trails and report back.
what are you talking about? wrote:
Try running on trails and report back.
Exactly. There is no gravity on trails.
Zerogravity wrote:
what are you talking about? wrote:
Try running on trails and report back.
Exactly. There is no gravity on trails.
If you can, try to find a good half mile down hill on a good technical trail. Try to time yourself running as fast as you can down it. Than do it again on the road.
YMMV wrote:
The PED affect of veganism and vegetarianism (for guys like Yannos, Jurek, Wardian, probably Walmsley to a larger extent) is likely due to the hypothyroid metabolic effects of the diet. This aids catabolism, minimizes muscle mass, while aiding heat tolerance. Probably applies also to the East African marathoners who live on sugar, but suck in colder, wetter weather. Meanwhile Yuki, the Meat Man, thrives in cold conditions.
These veggie guys would be terrible polar explorers, TDF riders or Himalayan mountaineers, but for 5-10 years they have a leg up in the hotter ultras. Eventually the intrinsic malnutrition of the diet kicks in, and they are cooked, possibly ending in heart attacks in their 50s (Maxwell, Sayre and True).
My God what an absurd little troll you are.
Everything you wrote above is rubbish.
Killian Jornet has eaten a mainly non-meat diet (just occasional meat a couple times a month) for years. In recent years he has switched to a NO meat/milk diet. He has fared pretty well in some cold conditions, eh? (yeah, look it up).
Give it up, clown. You know zero about nutrition.
Well, my favorite hermaphrodite dinosaur has stirred from his slumber to be typically knee-jerk reactive in his posting today. Perhaps you have been furnished with a new colostomy bag and feel particularly spry? If you had a nice steak you might improve your grumpiness.
Your lone cunterexample of Kilian is interesting in his uniqueness. His having grown up in the mountains, and practicing intermittent fasting, training for long days without eating, offers a possible pathway in which younger, still insulin-sensitive high-carb athletes can forestall their inevitable decline. Of course, then you have athletes like Jeff Browning, eating a meat-based diet and consistently placing in the top ten at WS100 and Hardrock into his late 40s.
Meanwhile, hundreds of hypothyroid Kenyans keep chugging the sugar and EPO, and hope that this doesn't happen on race day:
YMMV wrote:
Well, my favorite hermaphrodite dinosaur has stirred from his slumber to be typically knee-jerk reactive in his posting today. Perhaps you have been furnished with a new colostomy bag and feel particularly spry? If you had a nice steak you might improve your grumpiness.
Your lone cunterexample of Kilian is interesting in his uniqueness. His having grown up in the mountains, and practicing intermittent fasting, training for long days without eating, offers a possible pathway in which younger, still insulin-sensitive high-carb athletes can forestall their inevitable decline. Of course, then you have athletes like Jeff Browning, eating a meat-based diet and consistently placing in the top ten at WS100 and Hardrock into his late 40s.
Meanwhile, hundreds of hypothyroid Kenyans keep chugging the sugar and EPO, and hope that this doesn't happen on race day:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjDsImNo5TjAhWCoFsKHW0JBwUQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcaltrack.com%2Fctrn%2Findex.php%2Ffeatures%2F952-2018-boston-diary-five-lessons-to-learn-from-2018-baa-boston-marathon&psig=AOvVaw05k14AKkL0-OQ3uL0TaQIv&ust=1562089438952645https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiVjbKmo5TjAhW7GTQIHVP9BUIQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fjrnheadlines%2Fstatus%2F705884506109005824&psig=AOvVaw1298KS9iMhn_QnWaKvt4dU&ust=1562089578511776
Dude, I am being 100% serious here: you have a serious problem. I mean, I guess it's no different than so many other people that spend a large chunk of their lives on the internet "figuring things out" and becoming experts in their own mind, and then spending huge chunks of their lives telling others about their bizarre, fad theories, but it's a problem. Not sure of the diagnosis (not my field), but it's a combination of: extreme egotism combined with some need to be "in" on the latest fad/thing and a pathological obsession with one's health.
You can pull anecdotes or supposed "examples" all day out of your a$$, but there are literally ZERO peer reviewed/clinical evidence that even suggest that high carb athletes, compared to high fat or high meat eating athletes:
1) perform worse in cold conditions, or
2) or "burn out" earlier or have shorter careers.
None. Zero. Zilch. You've simply imagined this, or, more likely, some absurd internet keto-klown "EXPERT" posted something about this cockamamie theory and you lapped it up like a big glass of Keto Kool Aid. And then from there plugged in some other bizarre ideas to support this in your own mind. And voila, a scientific "FACT" is born inside YMMV's deteriorated brain.
Your rants/references to/about "hemaphrodites" , "colostomy bags", and "hypothyroid kenyans chugging sugar and EPO" just further bolsters the case that you're one demented, brain-weary weirdo.
One last time: no one cares what you think about nutrition, and no one (outside of your Keto Kult bubble /echo chamber) wants to hear about your whacko beliefs and theories. Stop wasting your (and everyone else's) time and 'breath'.
rojo wrote:
DC Wonk wrote:
Western is OK, but on Saturday, the freakin hottest day of the year in DC so far, Michael Wardian ran all 89 miles oh the beltway loop around DC. Amazing that he finished at all.
89 miles?All the way around 495 is 89 miles? I would have guessed way less.
Why in the hell did he do that?
Why? Truly? b/c he lives there and he's an ultrarunner. If you have to ask why, you may never understand. Try explaining to a non runner why run a marathon, or what you think about when you run. This isn't any different.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
Dude, I am being 100% serious here: you have a serious problem. I mean, I guess it's no different than so many other people that spend a large chunk of their lives on the internet "figuring things out" and becoming experts in their own mind, and then spending huge chunks of their lives telling others about their bizarre, fad theories, but it's a problem. Not sure of the diagnosis (not my field), but it's a combination of: extreme egotism combined with some need to be "in" on the latest fad/thing and a pathological obsession with one's health.
You can pull anecdotes or supposed "examples" all day out of your a$$, but there are literally ZERO peer reviewed/clinical evidence that even suggest that high carb athletes, compared to high fat or high meat eating athletes:
1) perform worse in cold conditions, or
2) or "burn out" earlier or have shorter careers.
None. Zero. Zilch. You've simply imagined this, or, more likely, some absurd internet keto-klown "EXPERT" posted something about this cockamamie theory and you lapped it up like a big glass of Keto Kool Aid. And then from there plugged in some other bizarre ideas to support this in your own mind. And voila, a scientific "FACT" is born inside YMMV's deteriorated brain.
Your rants/references to/about "hemaphrodites" , "colostomy bags", and "hypothyroid kenyans chugging sugar and EPO" just further bolsters the case that you're one demented, brain-weary weirdo.
One last time: no one cares what you think about nutrition, and no one (outside of your Keto Kult bubble /echo chamber) wants to hear about your whacko beliefs and theories. Stop wasting your (and everyone else's) time and 'breath'.
Thank you Tyronne.
YMMV has a huge problem.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
YMMV wrote:
Well, my favorite hermaphrodite dinosaur has stirred from his slumber to be typically knee-jerk reactive in his posting today. Perhaps you have been furnished with a new colostomy bag and feel particularly spry? If you had a nice steak you might improve your grumpiness.
Your lone cunterexample of Kilian is interesting in his uniqueness. His having grown up in the mountains, and practicing intermittent fasting, training for long days without eating, offers a possible pathway in which younger, still insulin-sensitive high-carb athletes can forestall their inevitable decline. Of course, then you have athletes like Jeff Browning, eating a meat-based diet and consistently placing in the top ten at WS100 and Hardrock into his late 40s.
Meanwhile, hundreds of hypothyroid Kenyans keep chugging the sugar and EPO, and hope that this doesn't happen on race day:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjDsImNo5TjAhWCoFsKHW0JBwUQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcaltrack.com%2Fctrn%2Findex.php%2Ffeatures%2F952-2018-boston-diary-five-lessons-to-learn-from-2018-baa-boston-marathon&psig=AOvVaw05k14AKkL0-OQ3uL0TaQIv&ust=1562089438952645https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiVjbKmo5TjAhW7GTQIHVP9BUIQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fjrnheadlines%2Fstatus%2F705884506109005824&psig=AOvVaw1298KS9iMhn_QnWaKvt4dU&ust=1562089578511776Dude, I am being 100% serious here: you have a serious problem. I mean, I guess it's no different than so many other people that spend a large chunk of their lives on the internet "figuring things out" and becoming experts in their own mind, and then spending huge chunks of their lives telling others about their bizarre, fad theories, but it's a problem. Not sure of the diagnosis (not my field), but it's a combination of: extreme egotism combined with some need to be "in" on the latest fad/thing and a pathological obsession with one's health.
You can pull anecdotes or supposed "examples" all day out of your a$$, but there are literally ZERO peer reviewed/clinical evidence that even suggest that high carb athletes, compared to high fat or high meat eating athletes:
1) perform worse in cold conditions, or
2) or "burn out" earlier or have shorter careers.
None. Zero. Zilch. You've simply imagined this, or, more likely, some absurd internet keto-klown "EXPERT" posted something about this cockamamie theory and you lapped it up like a big glass of Keto Kool Aid. And then from there plugged in some other bizarre ideas to support this in your own mind. And voila, a scientific "FACT" is born inside YMMV's deteriorated brain.
Your rants/references to/about "hemaphrodites" , "colostomy bags", and "hypothyroid kenyans chugging sugar and EPO" just further bolsters the case that you're one demented, brain-weary weirdo.
One last time: no one cares what you think about nutrition, and no one (outside of your Keto Kult bubble /echo chamber) wants to hear about your whacko beliefs and theories. Stop wasting your (and everyone else's) time and 'breath'.
Dude, being serious here. Show me one "peer-reviewed/clinical evidence" that takes a small pool of athlete volunteers, having them train for months at mileage north of 100 miles/week, followed by a hill phase, followed by and interval phase, then tapering with light training, then become world-beaters at distances 800m-marathon. Sports physiology and nutrition as practiced in academia (as I believe you have associated yourself with) has produced nothing but 8-week "studies" of "fit recreational athletes, N=14" showing that daily high intensity training produces extension of "time to exhaustion", yada yada. Nutrition is even worse, projecting pet theories onto cherry-picked epidemiological data for predetermined outcomes that should never be allowed past the hypothesis-formation level.
It is athletes, coaches and physios with skin in the game that drive all of the innovation and true, empirical science behind long-term sports performance. And the latter is all that I care about, passionately, and I experiment constantly with myself and beta-test with my athletes, to produce frankly excellent, if not phenomenal results. . And many others here and elsewhere have confirmed similar outcomes using open-minded inquiry and appropriate, single-variable experimentation.
Take your daily dump on me as you will (and have, repeatedly, along with your early-dementia nutcase buddy who is too cowardly to register a handle), or just bypass my posts if you don't want your stodgy, useless orthodoxy challenged. You have never provided anything but vitriol to any discussion I've been part of. Not to mention your lack of sense of humor shows the true mediocrity of your intellect. Frankly I don't give a f#ck about your trolling and opinion and will bypass anything you post forthwith. I recommend that you return the favor.
Goodbye, troll.
YMMV wrote:
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
Dude, I am being 100% serious here: you have a serious problem. I mean, I guess it's no different than so many other people that spend a large chunk of their lives on the internet "figuring things out" and becoming experts in their own mind, and then spending huge chunks of their lives telling others about their bizarre, fad theories, but it's a problem. Not sure of the diagnosis (not my field), but it's a combination of: extreme egotism combined with some need to be "in" on the latest fad/thing and a pathological obsession with one's health.
You can pull anecdotes or supposed "examples" all day out of your a$$, but there are literally ZERO peer reviewed/clinical evidence that even suggest that high carb athletes, compared to high fat or high meat eating athletes:
1) perform worse in cold conditions, or
2) or "burn out" earlier or have shorter careers.
None. Zero. Zilch. You've simply imagined this, or, more likely, some absurd internet keto-klown "EXPERT" posted something about this cockamamie theory and you lapped it up like a big glass of Keto Kool Aid. And then from there plugged in some other bizarre ideas to support this in your own mind. And voila, a scientific "FACT" is born inside YMMV's deteriorated brain.
Your rants/references to/about "hemaphrodites" , "colostomy bags", and "hypothyroid kenyans chugging sugar and EPO" just further bolsters the case that you're one demented, brain-weary weirdo.
One last time: no one cares what you think about nutrition, and no one (outside of your Keto Kult bubble /echo chamber) wants to hear about your whacko beliefs and theories. Stop wasting your (and everyone else's) time and 'breath'.
Dude, being serious here. Show me one "peer-reviewed/clinical evidence" that takes a small pool of athlete volunteers, having them train for months at mileage north of 100 miles/week, followed by a hill phase, followed by and interval phase, then tapering with light training, then become world-beaters at distances 800m-marathon. Sports physiology and nutrition as practiced in academia (as I believe you have associated yourself with) has produced nothing but 8-week "studies" of "fit recreational athletes, N=14" showing that daily high intensity training produces extension of "time to exhaustion", yada yada. Nutrition is even worse, projecting pet theories onto cherry-picked epidemiological data for predetermined outcomes that should never be allowed past the hypothesis-formation level.
It is athletes, coaches and physios with skin in the game that drive all of the innovation and true, empirical science behind long-term sports performance. And the latter is all that I care about, passionately, and I experiment constantly with myself and beta-test with my athletes, to produce frankly excellent, if not phenomenal results. . And many others here and elsewhere have confirmed similar outcomes using open-minded inquiry and appropriate, single-variable experimentation.
Take your daily dump on me as you will (and have, repeatedly, along with your early-dementia nutcase buddy who is too cowardly to register a handle), or just bypass my posts if you don't want your stodgy, useless orthodoxy challenged. You have never provided anything but vitriol to any discussion I've been part of. Not to mention your lack of sense of humor shows the true mediocrity of your intellect. Frankly I don't give a f#ck about your trolling and opinion and will bypass anything you post forthwith. I recommend that you return the favor.
Goodbye, troll.
You still fail to produce evidence to support your BS - just the usual, incoherent rants. Give it up, idiot.
The only one here who is the troll is you.
YMMV wrote:
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
Dude, I am being 100% serious here: you have a serious problem. I mean, I guess it's no different than so many other people that spend a large chunk of their lives on the internet "figuring things out" and becoming experts in their own mind, and then spending huge chunks of their lives telling others about their bizarre, fad theories, but it's a problem. Not sure of the diagnosis (not my field), but it's a combination of: extreme egotism combined with some need to be "in" on the latest fad/thing and a pathological obsession with one's health.
You can pull anecdotes or supposed "examples" all day out of your a$$, but there are literally ZERO peer reviewed/clinical evidence that even suggest that high carb athletes, compared to high fat or high meat eating athletes:
1) perform worse in cold conditions, or
2) or "burn out" earlier or have shorter careers.
None. Zero. Zilch. You've simply imagined this, or, more likely, some absurd internet keto-klown "EXPERT" posted something about this cockamamie theory and you lapped it up like a big glass of Keto Kool Aid. And then from there plugged in some other bizarre ideas to support this in your own mind. And voila, a scientific "FACT" is born inside YMMV's deteriorated brain.
Your rants/references to/about "hemaphrodites" , "colostomy bags", and "hypothyroid kenyans chugging sugar and EPO" just further bolsters the case that you're one demented, brain-weary weirdo.
One last time: no one cares what you think about nutrition, and no one (outside of your Keto Kult bubble /echo chamber) wants to hear about your whacko beliefs and theories. Stop wasting your (and everyone else's) time and 'breath'.
Dude, being serious here. Show me one "peer-reviewed/clinical evidence" that takes a small pool of athlete volunteers, having them train for months at mileage north of 100 miles/week, followed by a hill phase, followed by and interval phase, then tapering with light training, then become world-beaters at distances 800m-marathon. Sports physiology and nutrition as practiced in academia (as I believe you have associated yourself with) has produced nothing but 8-week "studies" of "fit recreational athletes, N=14" showing that daily high intensity training produces extension of "time to exhaustion", yada yada. Nutrition is even worse, projecting pet theories onto cherry-picked epidemiological data for predetermined outcomes that should never be allowed past the hypothesis-formation level.
It is athletes, coaches and physios with skin in the game that drive all of the innovation and true, empirical science behind long-term sports performance. And the latter is all that I care about, passionately, and I experiment constantly with myself and beta-test with my athletes, to produce frankly excellent, if not phenomenal results. . And many others here and elsewhere have confirmed similar outcomes using open-minded inquiry and appropriate, single-variable experimentation.
Take your daily dump on me as you will (and have, repeatedly, along with your early-dementia nutcase buddy who is too cowardly to register a handle), or just bypass my posts if you don't want your stodgy, useless orthodoxy challenged. You have never provided anything but vitriol to any discussion I've been part of. Not to mention your lack of sense of humor shows the true mediocrity of your intellect. Frankly I don't give a f#ck about your trolling and opinion and will bypass anything you post forthwith. I recommend that you return the favor.
Goodbye, troll.
This guy seriously has mental issues.
Yes indeed. YMMV is pretty messed up.
I know you veggie burgers crave more studies, so here ya go:
The Seven day Adventist studies that vegans love to throw around actually show vegans were the sickest out of all the dietary groups, with the highest chance of stroke.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year