I'm 30. I received my PhD two years ago and after 2 years of adjuncting and applying to every tenure-track job out there, I have been unable to secure one. I'm done.
My question is: will the army or navy take me? Am I too old? Do they want or care about a PhD in. the social sciences? How should I proceed and get started?
You'd be better off pursuing the CIA or law school.
Stop trolling you loser
Learn a different language and go teach English overseas.
It appears that despite earning a PhD, you're too dumb to look up the requirements to join the military. So yeah, they'll probably take you.
If you are moderately in shape and have no disqualifying factors (health condition, criminal record), you have 2 years before you're too old to join as an officer in the Army or Navy. After that, you can enlist for another 3 years before you're too old to join at all.
Why would you enlist? Go through OCS and be commissioned as an officer.
Another route is the CIA, FBI, NSA, DOD, State Dept. and a few others.
Trump has brought US unemployment rate to 3.6%. The lowest rate since 1969. How low does he need to bring the unemployment rate for you to get a “non government” job?
Would not touch a PhD with a bargepole. Too much studying and terrible employment prospects. That's why I stopped after an MSc.
I disagree. Who wouldn't want a 6-7-8 year paid vacation? I mean, grad students at Harvard make about $40/k a year for doing not much. Sounds like a deal. Then work for the NSA or whatever. Or even the army: officer pay is Oh Kay.
asdfjsdklfsdfkld wrote:
I'm 30. I received my PhD two years ago and after 2 years of adjuncting and applying to every tenure-track job out there, I have been unable to secure one. I'm done.
My question is: will the army or navy take me? Am I too old? Do they want or care about a PhD in. the social sciences? How should I proceed and get started?
What's the difference between a pizza and a PhD in political science? The pizza can actually feed a family of three.
You are not too old.
One route to take is to join as an enlisted soldier to find out if you are 'cut out' for the military.
If you are both fit and intelligent you will stand out from the average soldier. Your supervisors will suggest you apply to OCS (Officer Candidate School).
asdfjsdklfsdfkld wrote:
I'm 30. I received my PhD two years ago and after 2 years of adjuncting and applying to every tenure-track job out there, I have been unable to secure one. I'm done.
My question is: will the army or navy take me? Am I too old? Do they want or care about a PhD in. the social sciences? How should I proceed and get started?
If you are fit, all around fit. If you can easily climb a 30ft. rope. If you can swim in utilities sans boots, maybe Army infantry officer. Most likely no for U.S.M.C. infantry officer, but give it a try. Being this is a running site, I assume you can run 3 miles, sub-18 minutes which is U.S.M.C. max standard. U.S. military do not want to bring someone in who is going to beg for a medical discharge after a year or two.
Navy intelligence is where all the well educated people go who want to "serve". That was what Mayor Pete did. My neighbor went to Dartmouth for finance and did Navy intelligence after he graduated. He also was thinking about politics, but ended up in a hedge fund after finishing his years in the Navy.
You may also look at working as a political risk analyst. Insurance companies sell political risk insurance for companies looking to do business in unstable parts of the world. The political risk analysts advise the insurers on whether the rebels will come out of the jungle and kidnap all the westerners. There are also political risk analysts that do consulting directly for businesses.
Precious Roy wrote:
Navy intelligence is where all the well educated people go who want to "serve". That was what Mayor Pete did. My neighbor went to Dartmouth for finance and did Navy intelligence after he graduated. He also was thinking about politics, but ended up in a hedge fund after finishing his years in the Navy.
You may also look at working as a political risk analyst. Insurance companies sell political risk insurance for companies looking to do business in unstable parts of the world. The political risk analysts advise the insurers on whether the rebels will come out of the jungle and kidnap all the westerners. There are also political risk analysts that do consulting directly for businesses.
The folks you're talking about (mostly, if not all) are reservists. Pretty sure that this guy is looking for a full time job.
Navy Stuff wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
Navy intelligence is where all the well educated people go who want to "serve". That was what Mayor Pete did. My neighbor went to Dartmouth for finance and did Navy intelligence after he graduated. He also was thinking about politics, but ended up in a hedge fund after finishing his years in the Navy.
You may also look at working as a political risk analyst. Insurance companies sell political risk insurance for companies looking to do business in unstable parts of the world. The political risk analysts advise the insurers on whether the rebels will come out of the jungle and kidnap all the westerners. There are also political risk analysts that do consulting directly for businesses.
The folks you're talking about (mostly, if not all) are reservists. Pretty sure that this guy is looking for a full time job.
Sorry, let me fine tune that reply. Of course, some "well educated" folks go on active duty as intel officers (contributing to the off-putting smarty pants demographic in that field). But if you're only willing to do reserves, then MANY more will pick intelligence, because there just aren't many other options in the (Navy) reserves for people who haven't already been on active duty (Supply is anther prominent one, last I knew).
But if one wants to go active duty (the OP, I believe), then there is absolutely no reason to limit oneself to intelligence. Pretty much everything is open to you, as long as you don't think (like many intel folks apparently do) that much of the other stuff is beneath them. Pilot, infantryman, ship driver, tanker, submariner, artilleryman, logistics, etc, etc., etc.
This guy coming here and asking for guidance, if he has really got a PhD, probably won't be up to the research in securing a spot OCS. Or testing well enough in Recruiting and Outfitting to qualify.
You're very qualified for any government First Responder position and should definitely serve our country. The exception is Marines want individuals with personal fighting skills normally teenagers for enlisted to early 20s for officers. Thank you for your service.
There are plenty of contractors that would probably have hired you 9 months ago...given the past events you could still get hired would need to apply for a specific role though.
Precious Roy wrote:
Navy intelligence is where all the well educated people go who want to "serve". That was what Mayor Pete did. My neighbor went to Dartmouth for finance and did Navy intelligence after he graduated. He also was thinking about politics, but ended up in a hedge fund after finishing his years in the Navy.
You may also look at working as a political risk analyst. Insurance companies sell political risk insurance for companies looking to do business in unstable parts of the world. The political risk analysts advise the insurers on whether the rebels will come out of the jungle and kidnap all the westerners. There are also political risk analysts that do consulting directly for businesses.
A couple anecdotal cases does necessarily help O.P. Your neighbor and Mayor Pete? Infantry commissioned officers do not have less formal education than intelligence officers. O.P. is looking for U.S. military to take him/her in at age 30. If O.P. is fluent in three or more languages or has code breaking aptitude, maybe C.I.A.
Navy Intelligence is not necessarily glamorous. Captain Crozier from USS Theodore Roosevelt may be an intelligence officer soon. For commissioned officers, combat jobs are desired. There is a promotion ceiling on non-combat commissioned officer jobs. Some U.S. women pushing for women in combat was never about women being E-5 or higher in combat. It is about 0-7 and higher rank. 0-7 and higher is often associated with combat commissioned officer jobs.