Democrat presidential debate official thread

I think Warren is pretty electable. All she really has to do is fire up the Democrats. Follow the Obama playbook, Hillary tried to do that but shes terrible at connecting with people, Warren is not. All Democrats need is high voter turn out. High voter turn out years Dems win low voter turnout years Reps win. It really is as simple as that. Hillary lost because nobody was excited to vote for her and all the polls showed her winning by like 10 points, so people stayed home. I dont think that is going to happen a second time after this circus, literally every single person I know who is not a Trump supporter will vote for anyone other than Trump. People just don't care who anymore, just anyone but Trump will do.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

NotPC wrote:

I agree that the Biden is in big trouble over these new allegations and this only helps Warren. It makes both Trump and Biden look bad, however I don't see her beating Trump.

She's a more shrill Hillary, she's Hillary 2.0.

Agreed.

The Dems torpedoed whatever opportunity they had to beat Trump by starting this whole impeachment inquiry. The Pelosi Hail Mary will be the biggest blunder of her political career. It will backfire big time.

America will not elect Pocahontas

America will not elect Crazy Bernie

America will not elect Quid Pro Joe- he's already toast

Trump wins again!

KAG2020

I can't believe I am going to defend that ghoul but how is Pelosi going to have this backfire on her? She was the one that wanted to hold off and took a lot of criticism for doing so. Now she's to blame for moving forward on what looks like the best opportunity to impeach and possible remove Trump?

unlikely wrote:

I think Warren is pretty electable. All she really has to do is fire up the Democrats. Follow the Obama playbook, Hillary tried to do that but shes terrible at connecting with people, Warren is not. All Democrats need is high voter turn out. High voter turn out years Dems win low voter turnout years Reps win. It really is as simple as that. Hillary lost because nobody was excited to vote for her and all the polls showed her winning by like 10 points, so people stayed home. I dont think that is going to happen a second time after this circus, literally every single person I know who is not a Trump supporter will vote for anyone other than Trump. People just don't care who anymore, just anyone but Trump will do.

She has NO chance to win. All she has to do is continue down that Socialist path of doom. The moderate undecideds are not voting for leftist policies- I cannot emphasize that point enough.

However, this MAY work in your favor in 2024.

Raider3817 wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Agreed.

The Dems torpedoed whatever opportunity they had to beat Trump by starting this whole impeachment inquiry. The Pelosi Hail Mary will be the biggest blunder of her political career. It will backfire big time.

America will not elect Pocahontas

America will not elect Crazy Bernie

America will not elect Quid Pro Joe- he's already toast

Trump wins again!

KAG2020

I can't believe I am going to defend that ghoul but how is Pelosi going to have this backfire on her? She was the one that wanted to hold off and took a lot of criticism for doing so. Now she's to blame for moving forward on what looks like the best opportunity to impeach and possible remove Trump?

When Trump wins next year, she will get the blame. Simple.

So very few of you know that Biden was acting on behalf of obama and the international community to rid the country of this prosecutor who would NOT prosecute corruption.

I guess because you used caps we should be convinced. I wonder if there any numbers on 'moderate undecides'. I have a hard time believing anyone is undecided at this point. Its pretty much Trump cultists and everyone else at this point. Curious about the numbers because I imagine they are fairly insignificant. It would be nice if people on the left stopped worrying about 'moderates' and Trump supporters, these people are never going to vote for leftist policies like you say, but polls show their numbers matter little when the majority of the US supports most leftist policies. The problem is getting those people to vote.

Conundrum wrote:

So very few of you know that Biden was acting on behalf of obama and the international community to rid the country of this prosecutor who would NOT prosecute corruption.

I’m leaving on a jet plane.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

They are NOT supporting her tax plan for the rich. Try again.

Red herrings wrote:

Her tax plan for the rich is the same as now, no taxes for the rich.

Of course Wall Street supports her. That's where she got the money to run her campaign.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

elizabeth-warren-propose-new-wealth-tax-american-taxpayers

Aren't you a Republican? No wonder you're also a Warren fan.

She is parroting all of Bernie Sander's ideas to get votes, but has no plans to implement any of them.

Conundrum wrote:

So very few of you know that Biden was acting on behalf of obama and the international community to rid the country of this prosecutor who would NOT prosecute corruption.

He gave them a BILLION dollars to fire their Ukraine prosecutor. THAT is corruption.

Imagine Russia offering the US a billion dollars to fire the US prosecutor. Would you be okay with that too?

not convincing wrote:

I guess because you used caps we should be convinced. I wonder if there any numbers on 'moderate undecides'. I have a hard time believing anyone is undecided at this point. Its pretty much Trump cultists and everyone else at this point. Curious about the numbers because I imagine they are fairly insignificant. It would be nice if people on the left stopped worrying about 'moderates' and Trump supporters, these people are never going to vote for leftist policies like you say, but polls show their numbers matter little when the majority of the US supports most leftist policies. The problem is getting those people to vote.

I don't know... I am 99.99% sure I am going to vote for a Democrat because I am a pretty conservative Independent who cannot and will not vote for Trump. I am hoping the Democratic nominee is not a crazy person. I did not vote for Trump last time, FWIW.

Here is the thing. Right now you have my vote. If you nominate some antifa-loving communist, I will just stay home. You'll lose me. I think there are a lot of me. Almost everyone I know is like me: Dems, Reps and Inds. I am a middle-aged guy with lots of running and non-running friends of all stripes and this is what I hear from all of them. The Internet and Cable News makes us think that everyone is a rabid political tribalist, but I believe that most Americans just want an adult in the White House so we can go back to thinking about other things.

I may be wrong. I am curious if you agree with me or if you think I am wrong.

Rigged

Who are you voting for in your state's Democrat primary?

not convincing wrote:

It would be nice if people on the left stopped worrying about 'moderates' and Trump supporters, these people are never going to vote for leftist policies like you say, but polls show their numbers matter little when the majority of the US supports most leftist policies. The problem is getting those people to vote.

I agree.

Although right wingers try to influence Democratic primaries with false news;

On the positive side, this helps us to be more clear with our policies and improve them.

Moderate Or wrote:

I don't know... I am 99.99% sure I am going to vote for a Democrat because I am a pretty conservative Independent who cannot and will not vote for Trump. I am hoping the Democratic nominee is not a crazy person. I did not vote for Trump last time, FWIW.

Here is the thing. Right now you have my vote. If you nominate some antifa-loving communist, I will just stay home.

Ha ha ha ha you republi-tards crack me up. Ha ha ha ha. So we should nominate some right right fascist huh and then you'd be happy, well you already have on in the white house - so just save your breath and vote for him again next time.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. This is basically what I am saying. People are tired of the circus and will vote for just about anyone other than Trump as long as they don't seem like a lunatic. Obviously people will try to paint Warren as a communist but if actually listen to her plans they really are not that far out there. I am probably a little younger than you and so I may lean a little more left, I was a Bernie fan last time around and while I still think he has some good ideas, I now don't think he would make a good president. The thing I like about Warren is she is a lot more like Obama in that she is finding ways to incorporate a lot of the progressive ideas that are popular among Democrats without going overboard.

not convincing wrote:

Yeah, I'd agree with that. This is basically what I am saying.

Of course cause you're replying to yourself again Ha ha ha ha. You republi-tards crack me up.

These Dem candidates are socialists. If you don't vote for Trump, then you will cast your lot with 2020 leftist policies such making illegal aliens first, Medicare for all, free college, etc. I have already ruled out Quid Pro Joe staying in the race.

Btw, Quid Pro Joe and Andy Yang are the only dem candidates to condemn Antifa.

dunes runner wrote:

not convincing wrote:

It would be nice if people on the left stopped worrying about 'moderates' and Trump supporters, these people are never going to vote for leftist policies like you say, but polls show their numbers matter little when the majority of the US supports most leftist policies. The problem is getting those people to vote.

I agree.

Although right wingers try to influence Democratic primaries with false news;

On the positive side, this helps us to be more clear with our policies and improve them.

This is true. What bothers me most about liberals right now though is-as the right wingers call it-virtue signalling that goes on, such as jumping on Franken to resign based on some sketchy sh!t. There needs to be more unity among the dem's and more playing by the same rules as republicans. Pretending that if you take some higher moral stand that republicans will meet there has been shown over and over again to backfire. Its time to start shoving more progressive ideas down everyone's throat the same way that republicans are doing.

I think you need to wake up and look around the world before calling any dem candidates socialist, lol. You obviously have no clue what real socialist are like.

Btw, Yang is my favorite candidate but he has no shot. So I will be supporting Warren.

To correct the subject line

(pretty sneaky, Rigged)