Semenya update: IAAF argues she is "biologically male with a female gender identity" in new 163 page doc

RunRagged wrote:

Chicken556 wrote:

Did we (or just me) miss this?

https://www.google.co.za/amp/s/www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/amp/article/2001248933/caster-semenya-s-wife-is-pregnant

Oh lord, Caster's wife, Violet, has been repeatedly reported to be pregnant since 2017, especially in the Kenyan press. But the two have done tons of media on a regular basis since then, & in all the photos & videos I've seen Violet looks very much NOT pregnant - and no word or pics of a child have ever surfaced. Given how boastful Semenya is, you'd think if a baby had been born there'd be some crowing and breaking out of cigars - and a pic or two on SM. So who knows?

But the salient point is: some individuals with Semenya's DSD, 5-ARD, do father children with their own sperm, though often they need medical help to do so. Those born with micropenises sometimes can impregnate a woman the traditional way, whilst others whose external genitalia looks more "not male" and whose testes remain undescended or internal need to have their semen extracted by a medic, then inserted into the partner's vagina using what is colloquially known as the turkey-baster method.

From the paper from "Fertility and Sterility" posted upthread:

"A most interesting and intriguing male disorder of sexual differentiation is due to 5α-reductase-2 isoenzyme deficiency. These males are born with ambiguous external genitalia due to a deficiency in their ability to catalyze the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT)... At puberty, the surge in mainly testosterone production prompts virilization, causing most (who were raised as females) to choose gender reassignment to male.

"(However) fertility is a challenge for affected men for several reasons. Uncorrected cryptorchidism (undescended testicles) is associated with low sperm production, and there is evidence of defective transformation of spermatogonia into spermatocytes. The underdeveloped prostate and consequent low semen volumes affect sperm transport. Additionally, semen may not liquefy due to a lack of prostate-specific antigen..."

RunRagged wrote:

Chicken556 wrote:

Did we (or just me) miss this?

https://www.google.co.za/amp/s/www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/amp/article/2001248933/caster-semenya-s-wife-is-pregnant

Oh lord, Caster's wife, Violet, has been repeatedly reported to be pregnant since 2017, especially in the Kenyan press. But the two have done tons of media on a regular basis since then, & in all the photos & videos I've seen Violet looks very much NOT pregnant - and no word or pics of a child have ever surfaced. Given how boastful Semenya is, you'd think if a baby had been born there'd be some crowing and breaking out of cigars - and a pic or two on SM. So who knows?

But the salient point is: some individuals with Semenya's DSD, 5-ARD, do father children with their own sperm, though often they need medical help to do so. Those born with micropenises sometimes can impregnate a woman the traditional way, whilst others whose external genitalia looks more "not male" and whose testes remain undescended or internal need to have their semen extracted by a medic, then inserted into the partner's vagina using what is colloquially known as the turkey-baster method.

From the paper from "Fertility and Sterility" posted upthread:

"A most interesting and intriguing male disorder of sexual differentiation is due to 5α-reductase-2 isoenzyme deficiency. These males are born with ambiguous external genitalia due to a deficiency in their ability to catalyze the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT)... At puberty, the surge in mainly testosterone production prompts virilization, causing most (who were raised as females) to choose gender reassignment to male.

"(However) fertility is a challenge for affected men for several reasons. Uncorrected cryptorchidism (undescended testicles) is associated with low sperm production, and there is evidence of defective transformation of spermatogonia into spermatocytes. The underdeveloped prostate and consequent low semen volumes affect sperm transport. Additionally, semen may not liquefy due to a lack of prostate-specific antigen..."

Tread Lightly wrote:

RunRagged wrote:

Oh lord, Caster's wife, Violet, has been repeatedly reported to be pregnant since 2017, especially in the Kenyan press. But the two have done tons of media on a regular basis since then, & in all the photos & videos I've seen Violet looks very much NOT pregnant - and no word or pics of a child have ever surfaced. Given how boastful Semenya is, you'd think if a baby had been born there'd be some crowing and breaking out of cigars - and a pic or two on SM. So who knows?

But the salient point is: some individuals with Semenya's DSD, 5-ARD, do father children with their own sperm, though often they need medical help to do so. Those born with micropenises sometimes can impregnate a woman the traditional way, whilst others whose external genitalia looks more "not male" and whose testes remain undescended or internal need to have their semen extracted by a medic, then inserted into the partner's vagina using what is colloquially known as the turkey-baster method.

From the paper from "Fertility and Sterility" posted upthread:

"A most interesting and intriguing male disorder of sexual differentiation is due to 5α-reductase-2 isoenzyme deficiency. These males are born with ambiguous external genitalia due to a deficiency in their ability to catalyze the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT)... At puberty, the surge in mainly testosterone production prompts virilization, causing most (who were raised as females) to choose gender reassignment to male.

"(However) fertility is a challenge for affected men for several reasons. Uncorrected cryptorchidism (undescended testicles) is associated with low sperm production, and there is evidence of defective transformation of spermatogonia into spermatocytes. The underdeveloped prostate and consequent low semen volumes affect sperm transport. Additionally, semen may not liquefy due to a lack of prostate-specific antigen..."

This is now approaching defamation and libel. Your copy and paste pseudoscience and misrepresentations of fact may help you achieve your apparent wish of being more closely tied to this case. I urge you to be very careful with what you claim to be a fact. Just because something was said in a document or alleged in open court, that does not make it fact. Witness testimony and statements made in court are not subject to defamation, even if false, that does not hold true here.