He ran 3:39 last week so yes an impressive performance. When he runs under 335 he will run sub 730
Drew MF Hunter drops a 7:39 3k, his previous best was 8:14
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The IAAF tables have 7;39 3k = 13;08 5k = 8:15 2 mile. They aren’t perfect since the events aren’t ran at the same frequency, but they are more accurate for elite performances than formula based conversions. He’s probably close to 13:10 shape. I’d guess 13:12. Hopefully he gets a diamond league 5k in at some point this summer.
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cmon now wrote:
6 million lies wrote:
Yawn, let me know when he breaks 7:30. It's truly pathetic that American men today are no better than American men back 20-30 years ago.
7:29.00 Bernard LAGAT 12 DEC 1974 USA USA 2 Rieti (ITA) 29 AUG 2010 1245
2 7:30.84 Bob KENNEDY 18 AUG 1970 USA USA 8 Monaco (MON) 08 AUG 1998 1234
3 7:30.93 Ryan HILL 31 JAN 1990 USA USA 4 Paris (FRA) 27 AUG 2016 1233
4 7:31.57 Paul CHELIMO 27 OCT 1990 USA USA 2 Doha (QAT) 05 MAY 2017 1229
5 7:33.37 Sydney MAREE 09 SEP 1956 USA USA 2 London (GBR) 17 JUL 1982 1218
6 7:34.32 Chris SOLINSKY 05 DEC 1984 USA USA 5 Rieti (ITA) 29 AUG 2010 1212
7 7:34.96 Adam GOUCHER 18 FEB 1975 USA USA 6 Monaco (MON) 20 JUL 2001 1208
8 7:34.98 Matt TEGENKAMP 19 JAN 1982 USA USA 5 Monaco (MON) 20 AUG 2006 1208
9 7:35.16 Evan JAGER 08 MAR 1989 USA USA 6 Stockholm (SWE) 17 AUG 2012 1207
10 7:35.53 Ben TRUE 29 DEC 1985 USA USA 6 Paris (FRA) 01 JUL 2017 1204
11 7:35.84 Doug PADILLA 04 OCT 1956 USA USA 1 Oslo (NOR) 09 JUL 1983 1202
12 7:36.69 Steve SCOTT 05 MAY 1956 USA USA 1 Ingelheim (FRG) 01 SEP 1981 1197
13 7:37.04 Jim SPIVEY 07 MAR 1960 USA USA 3 Köln (GER) 01 AUG 1993 1195
14 7:37.70 Rudy CHAPA 07 NOV 1957 USA USA 1 Eugene, OR (USA) 10 MAY 1979 1191
15 7:37.97 Garrett HEATH 03 NOV 1985 USA USA 5 Monaco (MON) 17 JUL 2015 1189
16 7:38.03 Marc DAVIS 17 DEC 1969 USA USA 4 Monaco (MON) 07 AUG 1993 1189
17 7:38.08 Ben BLANKENSHIP 15 DEC 1988 USA USA 6 Monaco (MON) 17 JUL 2015 1188
18 7:38.19 Eric JENKINS 24 NOV 1991 USA USA 8 Rabat (MAR) 13 JUL 2018 1188
19 7:38.51 Hassan MEAD 28 AUG 1989 USA USA 7 London (GBR) 09 JUL 2017 1186
20 7:38.90 Andrew BAYER 03 FEB 1990 USA USA 8 London (GBR) 09 JUL 2017 1183
21 7:39.03 Dathan RITZENHEIN 30 DEC 1982 USA USA 4 Sheffield (GBR) 15 JUL 2007 1182
22 7:39.38 Will LEER 15 APR 1985 USA USA 7 Zagreb (CRO) 03 SEP 2013 1180
23 7:39.45 Tim BROE 20 JUN 1977 USA USA 7 Lausanne (SUI) 04 JUL 2001 1180
24 7:39.81 Lopez LOMONG 01 JAN 1985 USA USA 5 Rieti (ITA) 07 SEP 2014 1178
25 7:40.02 Andrew BUMBALOUGH 14 MAR 1987 USA USA 8 Zagreb (CRO) 03 SEP 2013 1176
26 7:40.19 Bill MCCHESNEY 08 JAN 1959 USA USA 2 Köln (GER) 22 AUG 1982 1175
27 7:40.78 David TORRENCE 26 NOV 1985 USA USA 11 Zagreb (CRO) 03 SEP 2013 1172
28 7:41.27 Anthony FAMIGLIETTI 08 NOV 1978 USA USA 1 Carson (USA) 20 MAY 2007 1169
29 7:41.60 Matt GIUSTO 25 OCT 1966 USA USA 7 Köln (GER) 01 AUG 1993 1166
29 7:41.60 Ryan WILSON 14 AUG 1974 USA USA 2 Sydney (AUS) 20 FEB 1999 1166
31 7:41.82 Aaron RAMIREZ 29 JUL 1962 USA USA 5 Nice (FRA) 15 JUL 1991 1165
32 7:42.11 Ralph KING 01 APR 1956 USA USA 4 Lausanne (SUI) 18 JUL 1979 1163
33 7:42.18 John GREGOREK 15 APR 1960 USA USA 5 Oslo (NOR) 14 JUL 1990 1163
34 7:42.6h Steve PREFONTAINE 25 JAN 1951 USA USA 2 Milano (ITA) 02 JUL 1974 1160
35 7:42.92 John TRAUTMANN 29 JUN 1968 USA USA 7 Nice (FRA) 15 JUL 1992 1158
36 7:43.01 Mark NENOW 16 NOV 1957 USA USA 7 Köln (GER) 20 AUG 1989 1158
37 7:43.02 Reuben REINA 16 NOV 1967 USA USA 7 Nice (FRA) 15 JUL 1991 1158
38 7:43.15 Terry BRAHM 21 NOV 1962 USA USA 2 Paris (FRA) 22 JUL 1986 1157
39 7:43.21 Tim HACKER 27 DEC 1962 USA USA 3 Stockholm (SWE) 03 JUL 1989 1157
40 7:43.23 Marty LIQUORI 11 SEP 1949 USA USA 2 London (GBR) 09 SEP 1977 1156
https://www.iaaf.org/records/all-time-toplists/middle-long/3000-metres/outdoor/men/senior?regionType=countries®ion=usa&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true&firstDay=1899-12-31&lastDay=2019-06-12
Dude... he's 21.. Come now.. Letsrunners are never impressed.
Not to mention 8 of those top-10 times are what I would call recent. At least not in that 20-30 years ago category. At some point, fast times will stagnant. We want a clean sport but then we're gonna be mad if times aren't super fast. 7:39 @ 21 is great. What will it take for this place to just start a thread & for people to positively comment about someone's running? -
That's right, big guy, when there are three team spots up for grabs then typically at least three people can be favored to make the team. Such a bright boy, so good at math.
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He should have gone to college. He is unproven in pressure situations. If he is top 5 in any event at nationals, I’d be a true miracle. When he can close a race like Rupp or Centro, give a shout out.
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Jk fan wrote:
The way the Tinman athletes train there is no peak at the end of the season. Once they are in good shape there is not much improvement to be had for the rest of the season. I predict Hunters next 5K (if not run tactically) to be right at 13:20 again. This can be a good approach but it isn't going to win any gold medals. Ben True on the other hand may make the opposite mistake by racing too much too soon. October is a long ways away but I suppose his main goal right now is just to make the team. I respect Ben a lot. One of the few Americans who is consistently mixing it up with the Africans in the Diamond League. I hope he finally gets on the Olympic team next year.
Track athletes need to compete more for the sport to attract fans
Track athlete is competing too much and will burn out before the championship meets when it counts.
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As a professional choice, he absolutely should not have gone to college. He was never going to get more money than he did coming out of high school. CU Boulder is a good school--not to open a can of worms, but it's probably better than Oregon--and Hunter is progressing well. I also don't buy the "people need to run in the NCAA so that they can learn how to race in pro races" idea. Morgan McDonald didn't learn a dang thing this year other than how to stay healthy. He's fitter than everyone and has better footspeed than everyone who's almost as fit as him. Kicking a 52 in a 14:0x race isn't going to help him win a world title any more than Hunter kicking a 58 in a 7:39 race will help him win. And I find it exceedingly hard to believe that the guy who won Heps in 4:05 for the 1500 learned anything worthwhile if he wants to go pro.
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Joe mama wrote:
The dude is purely a time trailer. Never won a big race in his life. Can’t deal with pressure. Probably drops out of the trials.
Outkicked Chris O’Hare (who’s run 3:32/made multiple world finals) for the win in the Adidas boost mile last year, in addition to his US indoor title and Sir Walter mile title in 2017. Also raced Suleiman to the line when he ran 3:36 in 2017. He’s barely been a pro for 2 years now, not sure what pressure situations you’re referring to. He’ll be fine. -
Carly Marx wrote:
6 million lies wrote:
Yawn, let me know when he breaks 7:30. It's truly pathetic that American men today are no better than American men back 20-30 years ago.
7:29.00 Bernard LAGAT 12 DEC 1974 USA USA 2 Rieti (ITA) 29 AUG 2010 1245
2 7:30.84 Bob KENNEDY 18 AUG 1970 USA USA 8 Monaco (MON) 08 AUG 1998 1234
3 7:30.93 Ryan HILL 31 JAN 1990 USA USA 4 Paris (FRA) 27 AUG 2016 1233
4 7:31.57 Paul CHELIMO 27 OCT 1990 USA USA 2 Doha (QAT) 05 MAY 2017 1229
5 7:33.37 Sydney MAREE 09 SEP 1956 USA USA 2 London (GBR) 17 JUL 1982 1218
6 7:34.32 Chris SOLINSKY 05 DEC 1984 USA USA 5 Rieti (ITA) 29 AUG 2010 1212
7 7:34.96 Adam GOUCHER 18 FEB 1975 USA USA 6 Monaco (MON) 20 JUL 2001 1208
8 7:34.98 Matt TEGENKAMP 19 JAN 1982 USA USA 5 Monaco (MON) 20 AUG 2006 1208
9 7:35.16 Evan JAGER 08 MAR 1989 USA USA 6 Stockholm (SWE) 17 AUG 2012 1207
10 7:35.53 Ben TRUE 29 DEC 1985 USA USA 6 Paris (FRA) 01 JUL 2017 1204
11 7:35.84 Doug PADILLA 04 OCT 1956 USA USA 1 Oslo (NOR) 09 JUL 1983 1202
12 7:36.69 Steve SCOTT 05 MAY 1956 USA USA 1 Ingelheim (FRG) 01 SEP 1981 1197
13 7:37.04 Jim SPIVEY 07 MAR 1960 USA USA 3 Köln (GER) 01 AUG 1993 1195
14 7:37.70 Rudy CHAPA 07 NOV 1957 USA USA 1 Eugene, OR (USA) 10 MAY 1979 1191
15 7:37.97 Garrett HEATH 03 NOV 1985 USA USA 5 Monaco (MON) 17 JUL 2015 1189
16 7:38.03 Marc DAVIS 17 DEC 1969 USA USA 4 Monaco (MON) 07 AUG 1993 1189
17 7:38.08 Ben BLANKENSHIP 15 DEC 1988 USA USA 6 Monaco (MON) 17 JUL 2015 1188
18 7:38.19 Eric JENKINS 24 NOV 1991 USA USA 8 Rabat (MAR) 13 JUL 2018 1188
19 7:38.51 Hassan MEAD 28 AUG 1989 USA USA 7 London (GBR) 09 JUL 2017 1186
20 7:38.90 Andrew BAYER 03 FEB 1990 USA USA 8 London (GBR) 09 JUL 2017 1183
21 7:39.03 Dathan RITZENHEIN 30 DEC 1982 USA USA 4 Sheffield (GBR) 15 JUL 2007 1182
22 7:39.38 Will LEER 15 APR 1985 USA USA 7 Zagreb (CRO) 03 SEP 2013 1180
23 7:39.45 Tim BROE 20 JUN 1977 USA USA 7 Lausanne (SUI) 04 JUL 2001 1180
24 7:39.81 Lopez LOMONG 01 JAN 1985 USA USA 5 Rieti (ITA) 07 SEP 2014 1178
25 7:40.02 Andrew BUMBALOUGH 14 MAR 1987 USA USA 8 Zagreb (CRO) 03 SEP 2013 1176
26 7:40.19 Bill MCCHESNEY 08 JAN 1959 USA USA 2 Köln (GER) 22 AUG 1982 1175
27 7:40.78 David TORRENCE 26 NOV 1985 USA USA 11 Zagreb (CRO) 03 SEP 2013 1172
28 7:41.27 Anthony FAMIGLIETTI 08 NOV 1978 USA USA 1 Carson (USA) 20 MAY 2007 1169
29 7:41.60 Matt GIUSTO 25 OCT 1966 USA USA 7 Köln (GER) 01 AUG 1993 1166
29 7:41.60 Ryan WILSON 14 AUG 1974 USA USA 2 Sydney (AUS) 20 FEB 1999 1166
31 7:41.82 Aaron RAMIREZ 29 JUL 1962 USA USA 5 Nice (FRA) 15 JUL 1991 1165
32 7:42.11 Ralph KING 01 APR 1956 USA USA 4 Lausanne (SUI) 18 JUL 1979 1163
33 7:42.18 John GREGOREK 15 APR 1960 USA USA 5 Oslo (NOR) 14 JUL 1990 1163
34 7:42.6h Steve PREFONTAINE 25 JAN 1951 USA USA 2 Milano (ITA) 02 JUL 1974 1160
35 7:42.92 John TRAUTMANN 29 JUN 1968 USA USA 7 Nice (FRA) 15 JUL 1992 1158
36 7:43.01 Mark NENOW 16 NOV 1957 USA USA 7 Köln (GER) 20 AUG 1989 1158
37 7:43.02 Reuben REINA 16 NOV 1967 USA USA 7 Nice (FRA) 15 JUL 1991 1158
38 7:43.15 Terry BRAHM 21 NOV 1962 USA USA 2 Paris (FRA) 22 JUL 1986 1157
39 7:43.21 Tim HACKER 27 DEC 1962 USA USA 3 Stockholm (SWE) 03 JUL 1989 1157
40 7:43.23 Marty LIQUORI 11 SEP 1949 USA USA 2 London (GBR) 09 SEP 1977 1156
https://www.iaaf.org/records/all-time-toplists/middle-long/3000-metres/outdoor/men/senior?regionType=countries®ion=usa&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true&firstDay=1899-12-31&lastDay=2019-06-12
Lagat is a PROVEN drug cheat who let off on a "TECHNICALITY". Now that the truth is becoming more and more evident, mainly that E. Africans have been ALLOWED to cheat for three decades, it's time to remove people like Lagat, who was caught, from these lists.
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Joe mama wrote:
The dude is purely a time trailer. Never won a big race in his life. Can’t deal with pressure. Probably drops out of the trials.
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NCAAs offer three national meets to peak for and compete at. It did wonders for Rupp’s career, but I guess the heir apparent, that Tinman has dubbed the Lebron James of our sport, is better than Rupp.
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Alan Webb v. Nick Willis. Need I saw more..
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Yeah ever since high school he has been unable to "seal the deal"
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Joe mama wrote:
The dude is purely a time trailer. Never won a big race in his life. Can’t deal with pressure. Probably drops out of the trials.
Yeah ever since high school he has been unable to "seal the deal"
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So you're upset that he went pro instead of running in college. Cool. That doesn't mean he "can't win big races".
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Joe Mama wrote:
NCAAs offer three national meets to peak for and compete at. It did wonders for Rupp’s career, but I guess the heir apparent, that Tinman has dubbed the Lebron James of our sport, is better than Rupp.
Better than Rupp was as a high schooler, and could smoke a 21 year old Rupp in anything under a 10k. Plus he’s not fuelled by Alberto’s Saladbar juice like Rupp is. Also I’d say that Noah Lyles is the Lebron James of our sport, Hunter’s more of a Kobe. -
PrZ wrote:
Joe Mama wrote:
NCAAs offer three national meets to peak for and compete at. It did wonders for Rupp’s career, but I guess the heir apparent, that Tinman has dubbed the Lebron James of our sport, is better than Rupp.
Better than Rupp was as a high schooler, and could smoke a 21 year old Rupp in anything under a 10k. Plus he’s not fuelled by Alberto’s Saladbar juice like Rupp is. Also I’d say that Noah Lyles is the Lebron James of our sport, Hunter’s more of a Kobe.
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Drunk Letsrun wrote:
PrZ wrote:
Joe Mama wrote:
NCAAs offer three national meets to peak for and compete at. It did wonders for Rupp’s career, but I guess the heir apparent, that Tinman has dubbed the Lebron James of our sport, is better than Rupp.
Better than Rupp was as a high schooler, and could smoke a 21 year old Rupp in anything under a 10k. Plus he’s not fuelled by Alberto’s Saladbar juice like Rupp is. Also I’d say that Noah Lyles is the Lebron James of our sport, Hunter’s more of a Kobe.
No, Hunter's far more of a Howard or a Melo.
Hunter has never made a US team for World's or Olys, he's not even an NBA All Star equivalent. Maybe he's the high school phenom drafted in the first round who gets on the Rising Stars roster, at best this far. He's Lonzo Ball. -
rojo wrote:
MAYBE you can argue that I'd say that Chelimo has a 100% chance of making the team barring a fall and then everyone else is less than 50%.
Maybe I will argue that you'd say that Chelimo has a 100% chance of making the team barring a fall and then everyone else is less than 50%. -
Charles Oakley wrote:
Drunk Letsrun wrote:
PrZ wrote:
Joe Mama wrote:
NCAAs offer three national meets to peak for and compete at. It did wonders for Rupp’s career, but I guess the heir apparent, that Tinman has dubbed the Lebron James of our sport, is better than Rupp.
Better than Rupp was as a high schooler, and could smoke a 21 year old Rupp in anything under a 10k. Plus he’s not fuelled by Alberto’s Saladbar juice like Rupp is. Also I’d say that Noah Lyles is the Lebron James of our sport, Hunter’s more of a Kobe.
No, Hunter's far more of a Howard or a Melo.
Hunter has never made a US team for World's or Olys, he's not even an NBA All Star equivalent. Maybe he's the high school phenom drafted in the first round who gets on the Rising Stars roster, at best this far. He's Lonzo Ball.
Lonzo Ball? Throw some respect on the Footlocker and sub 4 mile indoors high school runner, who also won a US national title just a couple of months ago.....from the slow heat like a fuccing boss.
Man, the Drew Hunter haters are back and in greater numbers too (obi wan kenobi voice)
