lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
any news about whether this was local rat poison, or imported from Italy?
The report says he's the brother of Eunice Kirwa. Just splendid...now we have siblings doping in Kenya.
This is getting ridiculous - the IAAF needs to ban this country right now!
The IAAF just extended the Russian ban through the WC at Doha.
So, they continue to be aggressive with Russia but treat Kenya with kid gloves...go figure.
Another Kenyan smoker in the marathon (2:06:13).
Didn’t know this was still done, or even illegal. 1800’s I know they used it, when morphine or cocaine were the only alternative PEDs (and cocaine wasn’t always easy to get).
Some theme music for this thread:
Strychnine is the substance van der Poel was using when he gave his lame pigeon pie excuse.
https://runningmagazine.ca/the-scene/ridiculous-doping-excuses/
He ingested it from eating contaminated cornmeal Ugali.
These drug cheats, and their weird stories and apologists, keep cracking me up. Awesome stuff here!
What kind of rat poison? How much should one take and where to get it? Asking for a friend who has a big 10k coming up.
Rat poison of other types is actually used as human medicine.
jesseriley wrote:
Didn’t know this was still done, or even illegal. 1800’s I know they used it, when morphine or cocaine were the only alternative PEDs (and cocaine wasn’t always easy to get).
Not so far back, in the early 1900's the first few Olympics, marathon runners used that stuff.
Funny story below. Especially the Cuban runner that "decided to take a break from the brutal race (a very hilly course and full of choking dust kicked up by the support vehicles traveling alongside the competitors) and stopped in an orchard to eat some apples. The apples disagreed with him and so he took a nap to recover. He still finished fourth."
Back in the days the Marathon was more like a freak show.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2016/jul/21/the-cocktail-of-poison-and-brandy-that-led-to-olympic-gold-strychnineWarfarin wrote:
Rat poison of other types is actually used as human medicine.
This. Coumadin only "thins" the blood. Perhaps he's on an agent that is increasing his viscosity, and doesn't want to die? I'm not sure why one would want thin blood otherwise...? It's a different mechanism, but aspirin also decreases clotting.
Right up there with industrial strength glue.
asking for a "friend" wrote:
What kind of rat poison? How much should one take and where to get it? Asking for a friend who has a big 10k coming up.
Yes, a friend, sure... ;)
Sign of something else wrote:
Warfarin wrote:
Rat poison of other types is actually used as human medicine.
This. Coumadin only "thins" the blood. Perhaps he's on an agent that is increasing his viscosity, and doesn't want to die? I'm not sure why one would want thin blood otherwise...? It's a different mechanism, but aspirin also decreases clotting.
Kirwa was on strychnine, not warfarin. Strychnine acts as a stimulant in small doses.
LoneStarXC wrote:
Sign of something else wrote:
This. Coumadin only "thins" the blood. Perhaps he's on an agent that is increasing his viscosity, and doesn't want to die? I'm not sure why one would want thin blood otherwise...? It's a different mechanism, but aspirin also decreases clotting.
Kirwa was on strychnine, not warfarin. Strychnine acts as a stimulant in small doses.
How small are we talking about?
jesseriley wrote:
Didn’t know this was still done, or even illegal. 1800’s I know they used it, when morphine or cocaine were the only alternative PEDs (and cocaine wasn’t always easy to get).
The 1904 Olympics marathon winner was American Thomas Hicks. He doped using strychnine (rat poison).
Had the race been run under current rules, Hicks would also have been disqualified for using strychnine: his assistants had given him a dose of 1/60 of a grain (roughly 1 mg) of strychnine[3] and some brandy because he was flagging badly during the race; the first dose of strychnine did not revive him for long, so he was given another. As a result, he collapsed after crossing the finishing line. Another dose might have been fatal. Strychnine is now forbidden for athletes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hicks_(athlete)https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-strychnine-was-an-early-performance-enhancing-drug-512532345Rat poison. Wow! That's a real high wire act. Take a bit too much then vital organs will pour blood and then shut down. It is not worth it runners! There are so many other ways to make money. Runners, make sure you live long enough to see your grandkids grow up.