I didn’t realize her progression was fast. I find it very hard to believe that someone as young as 19 is massively doping. But I also wouldn’t necessarily be surprised.
I didn’t realize her progression was fast. I find it very hard to believe that someone as young as 19 is massively doping. But I also wouldn’t necessarily be surprised.
ShaCarri ran 11.12 at the state meet in Austin with a 3.6 aiding wind in 2018
This is why you can't believe everything you read on the internet, especially from a self-proclaimed old man out of the sport. Sha'Carri ran a legal 11.28 in 2017 that SG has chosen to ignore. Furthermore, she ran 10.99 not once, but twice, legally this season. So her progression would read - 11.47 11.28 11.12w (11.32) 10.91w / 10.99 / 10.99 / 10.75 And you can't ignore her 200m or 60m(i) 23.48 23.28 / 7.49i 23.02w 22.17 / 7.20i Those are the correct facts, as Geezer hasn't received current results with T&FN having interruptions in digital/paper magazines.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Richardson's basic 100m progression:
2015 12.51
2016 11.44
2017 11.41
2018 11.65
2019 10.84
Ignoring 2015 because of the super headwind of -4.0m/s, and lowering 2019 by 0.02s for celebration, you have the following annual basic progression:
11.44
11.41
11.65
10.82
A bit of backsliding in 2018 for whatever reason, it doesn't matter, you can exclude that whole year.
Plateaus at 11.4-low, then hits 10.8. A basic improvement of 0.60s, assuming earlier consistency at 11.42
How many times have I detailed that signature 0.50 improvement over 2 seasons in other athletes. And Richardson improved by 0.60!
She’s going pro according to her twitter account:
https://twitter.com/itskerrii/status/1138918438326288384?s=21
You know, your posts don’t even make me angry, because they seem like a cry for help, or “lashing out”. It sounds like you have a lot of pent-up frustration and for some reason have chosen me as an outlet.
“Correct fact”: 11.28 (+2.0) in Austin = 11.41 basic.
Her interim sub-11’s are not relevant to her progression from 11.4 to 10.8.
“Self-proclaimed old man out of the sport”. Absolutely! Do you think that’s blowing my own horn too much??
You might want to turn your anger somewhere productive.
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Finally, it’s good to see that she agrees with me and has gone pro, NOW. In sprinting, anything can happen, eg Bromell. I don’t know what kind of deal she got for what term, but I hope she can hold herself together in her new environment. Smart move, it is exactly what she needed to do.
It's funny, I just got done re-reading Charlie Francis' book Speed Trap. In it he documents in a pretty detailed manner Angella Issajenko's training and doping regimen, including what she was taking and how much. According to Francis, Angella was his most gifted athlete and the first one he started on a doping program, and she had a pretty successful career before Ben Johnson's positive in '88 blew the lid off the whole thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angella_Taylor-Issajenko
So here we are now, trying to accept a 19 year old girl went from being basically an 11.4 second 100m sprinter to almost .22 seconds faster than a gifted athlete on a decade long doping program.
Or that Sha'Carri is now .1 seconds faster than another sprinter that had a big jump from mid 11s to 10.85 seconds in the 100 who was virtually a walking pharmacy:
https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/SPORTS-AND-DRUGS-Kelli-White-suspended-The-2757572.php
And then there's the winner of the men's sprints at NCAAs, who's times would have tied the world records (or dang close in the 200) back in the early '90s, when doping was rampant and testing was a joke, and then theirs the fact that the track that Carl Lewis set the world record of 9.86 at the '91 world champs was illegally hard.
Since it's clear that drug testing within the NCAA is a joke, the more interesting question we should be asking is the doping in NCAA track institutional or are the athletes doing it themselves? Is it instigated by the coaching staff? Are medical professionals involved? How far up the chain does it go, is it at the athletic department level? If it's happening in Track and Field it's sure as he** happening in Football and [all] the other sports.
Anyone remember Brianna Rollins’ 2013 season?
Yes she ended up the 2016 Olympic champ, but was suspended soon thereafter for 3 whereabouts violations. Nice.
She is an African American athlete, so in true Letsrun fashion make focus of the thread the possibility that she might be doping. And dont forget to include the "pardon me for being suspicious, but given the fact that......"
Beto O'Ruiz wrote:
She is an African American athlete, so in true Letsrun fashion make focus of the thread the possibility that she might be doping. And dont forget to include the "pardon me for being suspicious, but given the fact that......"
Wrong.
There is no “might be” about it.
It has to be said that dozens of good high school sprinters become world beaters within a year or two in college. Remember Steve Lewis and Jeremy Wariner in the 400m? Lewis ran 46.3 as a senior in high school, then 43.9 to win the Olympics the next year. Wariner ran about the same high school time and then 44.1 to win the Olympics the next year, I believe.
Many sprinters make a quantum leap because of the superior coaching and training and competition. Her improvement does not in itself mean she was doping.
I'm always skeptical of great times out of Florida, especially the Clermont track. So many bogus times.
So now we have Richardson apparently advancing to 10.72. Really? The 10.75 was bad enough, it represented a 0.60 improvement--which is utter insanity and strains credibility.
Now we have 10.72, the 6th-fastest performer ever, behind FloJo, Pharmelita, Marion, SAFP, and ET. In April. You just have to ask yourself if the clock was right.
I found this guy's take on the race on YT, check it out, I like it--he is incredulous, like me.
BTW he was a 10-flat guy not too long ago. He knows, man...he KNOWS.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
I'm always skeptical of great times out of Florida, especially the Clermont track. So many bogus times.
So now we have Richardson apparently advancing to 10.72. Really? The 10.75 was bad enough, it represented a 0.60 improvement--which is utter insanity and strains credibility.
Now we have 10.72, the 6th-fastest performer ever, behind FloJo, Pharmelita, Marion, SAFP, and ET. In April. You just have to ask yourself if the clock was right.
I found this guy's take on the race on YT, check it out, I like it--he is incredulous, like me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL6Y2TfRZyE
I like him. And, he makes sense. Shoes? Wind? Nope, 10.72 is not legit.
Yeah, Rae Edwards calls it like he sees it. Nobody owns him. I like him too. Too bad NBC is a useless MSM network—it would be so much better listening to Rae than the butter-headed Boldon.
I dunno about the shoes. We're seeing a rewriting of middle distance and distance records. So is the same engineering going on in the sprints? Why not.
We'll see how this plays out.
Coach Rae is a hoot!
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Yeah, Rae Edwards calls it like he sees it. Nobody owns him. I like him too. Too bad NBC is a useless MSM network—it would be so much better listening to Rae than the butter-headed Boldon.
Calling it like he sees doesn't mean he isn't wrong.
Appealing to a bone headed has-been like Rae Edwards is an all time low for you Geezer. You're so much better than confirmation bias.
Stick with your usual obfuscatory straw men. It fits you better
Totally incorrect. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
I have gone MUCH lower.😁
Yep he may be wrong about it, especially about some back-side action in maintenance.
But I appreciate his candor.
Also, any early-season time out of FLA is questionable, IMO, and needs confirmation.
Here’s an update of Richardson's basic 100m progression, in light of this season’s results (so far):
2015 12.51
2016 11.44
2017 11.41
2018 11.65
2019 10.84
2020 11.08
2021 10.68
Ignoring 2015 because of the super headwind of -4.0m/s, and lowering 2019 by 0.02s for celebration, you have the following annual basic progression:
11.44
11.41
11.65
10.82
11.08
10.68
A bit of backsliding in 2018 for whatever reason, it doesn't matter, you can exclude that whole year. Also you can exclude 2020, the Covid non-year in track.
Plateaus at 11.4-low, then hits 10.8. A basic improvement of 0.60s, assuming earlier consistency at 11.42
How many times have I detailed that signature 0.50 improvement over 2 seasons in other athletes. And Richardson improved by 0.60! And then by another 0.14, so far, to knocking on the doors of history.
Looking at this progression, maybe those predicting 10.54 aren’t that far off. Like you guys have said, if she goes 10.5, she is the wind-legal WR-holder.
I didn’t think she would go from 10.82 to 10.68 BASIC. That is totally smoking. How smoking? Here is the top-6 all-time women’s basic 100m list, including Richardson, excluding 10.49:
1. 10.68 FloJo, Richardson
2. 10.69 Marion
3. 10.69 SAFP
4. 10.71 Pharmelita
5. 10.72 ET
She is tied for #1 all-time, with the GOAT. FloJo made it there a few times, we will see what Richardson does.
This is insane. We have just witnessed the best, ever—and who knows if she’s done. She might get a few more hundredths from that start, to take sole possession of the #1 spot.
Yeah, nothing to see here...keep moving...
Tick...tock...tick...tock...tick...tock............
Although it is still a huge improvement she was actually a 11.28 basic in 2018, 11.12 in a 2.8w.Not at all saying she's not doping, but have you seen how bad 90 % of high school sprint programs are they just throw random workouts at you. No organization of the programing, and then she goes to possibly the best sprint school in the nation.