No Millennials, I will not tip you for putting my bagel in a bag.

Whenever i see discussions online about tipping, the argument is always "minimum wage for tipped employees is half of non tripped employees." Ok, but not in my state. They get full minimum wage. So then i see them arguing that minimum is only $9 per hour and they need the tips to compensate for the low wage. I mean, first they are arguing that their hourly wage is only $3 an hour, but now these employees make 3x than and still feel entitled to a tip. Now they raises the minimum wage to $15 per hour and guess what..... they still demand tips. I guess their argument really has nothing to do with low wages but just that they are entitled

I work at an ice cream shop that has one of those tip percentage touch screens. Presenting the customer with the tip screen is embarrassing for me sometimes, especially after a 30 second transaction. But like some folks on here have pointed out, it's not my fault that that's how our manager has it set up.

Also, some transactions can take as much time as a waiter would spend with you at a regular restaurant. If my customer asks for recommendations, allergy information, samples, asks me to spin them a milkshake, etc, I could spend 5 minutes with one person and 10 or 12 minutes with a big family. Asking for a tip feels a lot more reasonable if I've spent several minutes helping you and been friendly while I do it.

A business could pay its employees a base wage of $15+/hr to attract friendly and attentive baristas/cashiers/etc and then pass that cost along to the consumer by raising prices. Or it can pay its employees the slap in the face that is tipped minimum wage in most states, keep its prices supposedly low, and then ask you to tip. It ends up kind of being the same thing.

I get that it feels silly sometimes, and tips have sort of gone too far, but that's how our economy works right now. If you can afford to go out for coffee, a bagel, ice cream, etc instead of eating at home, you can afford to pay 15-20% extra.

YaCheapBasturd wrote:

nomil wrote:

I will tip you if you bring me my food on a plate, fill my water glass and take my plate away when I'm done. I will not tip you if you take a bagel off a shelf and put it in a bag. You fancy white touch screen with a smiley face and suggested tip percentage will not sway me. Sorry.

To be done properly, a bagel should be toasted and cream cheese applied, then cut in half, an effort I think warrants a gratuity.

And a McDonald's worker doesn't do just as much 3x faster?

People tip for an ice cream ? Crikey, I've heard it all now.

Do you all tip when a nurse or doctor helps you, and it costs $20,000 as well ?

Here's an idea: maybe employers should just pay their employees more per hour & we do away with tipping all together so that's not just another burden passed along to the middle class. This happens everywhere in Europe but in the US the restaurant industry & their lobbying has done a good job to ensure this never happens. I'm going to continue to tip because their wages are trash & people working them are taking home less than people in previous generations did working jobs like that. What a backwards system. A lot of restaurants could pay more. & don't start with that'll run them all out of business. Let me see their books & see if there's any room to take profits at the top & pay workers a little more per hour. There are little cafes all around Europe that aren't expensive where you don't tip and staff make higher wages. We can do the same.

When I leave the change, the coins, from the transaction I rarely get a "Thank you."

Really? From now on I'll keep the change.....most are looking for dollar tip minimum. NO.

I would like to point out that the "bagels" you get at Starbucks, DunkinDonuts and most establishments are not real bagels, but just bread shaped like a donut.

Even more outrageous: the "convenience fees" for sports and concert tickets.

that's a pretty bold statement coming from the generation that lost the war in Afghanistan

RapedByCapitalism wrote:

Even more outrageous: the "convenience fees" for sports and concert tickets.

Wrong. While "convenience fees" are a huge nuisance, I hate the "includes parking fee" that some music venues charge (cough cough Live Nation). If you have an venue where capacity is 20,000 people, don't you have to provide enough parking for 20,000 vehicles in order to charge that fee given it's on every ticket purchased? I can guarantee you that not a single one of these venues can provide that many parking spaces (even including lots they contract out to use)

Pop a cap off a beer and hand the bottle to you: YES

Make you a custom sandwich at Subway: NO

Put a bagel in a bag: MAYBE

I don't get it.

Tend to agree with you here, especially given my advancing age and life experience. I remember watching this movie, particularly this scene, 25+ years ago and being completely drawn in by the dialogue. May have helped that I was high as a kite. Upon re-watch though, while the words spoken are certainly clever, they don't ring true with the characters at the table. I think QT is trying to convey that these are intelligent criminals, capable of abstract thought and debate re: mainstream issues that resonate with everyone, law-abiding or not. Mr. Pink makes some excellent points that are discussed in this thread. QT does the same in all of his flicks, with some scenes being more authentic and others falling flat like this one. The masses eat his stuff up in droves.

I can tell you from my own personal experiences with bank robbers and all types of lifetime felons, very few of them would be able to follow the conversation in this clip, let alone utter the syllables spoken in it.

Your observation about Hollywood is nothing new.

Boomers I knew growing up were stingy, but now they are retired and living in Naples.

Bleed and sweat now, live in wealth later.

Get to college, get educated, and get a good job. Above all, live comfortably. It's like doing tons of easy mileage to prep your body for hard workouts.

Tip to show kindness to others. Get to the point where wealth allows you to live on 45-50k a year, knowing if a crash came you could live at that same level.

LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS!

get a job making 50k or more in the Midwest, network like crazy, and live happily ever after.

Don't do journalism like I did for years. 25k starting out in '06 and 30k topping out in '14.

Well yeah, the whole idea behind tipping at places that you would never tip at 10 years ago is purely in interest of the company. The wages didn't really change. The businesses just want to make MORE of a profit saving money on workers. It's up to us to make sure they workers make ends meet and have extra spending money. The SAME people who may very well be trying to make ends meet and have extra spending money. It's pretty ironic.

OP a Baldie ?‍?& still b workin haha haha

Harambe wrote:

It does not follow wrote:

Wages are a reflection of value. Create more value, get paid more money. I fixed your post. You're welcome.

Assuming a free market.

Boomers went crying to the government for decades to put up barriers to entry across the entire workforce (and real estate industry). They are nanny-state-aholics and it shows with uneducated statements like the above.

Yes, agreed, assuming a free market. You're making assumptions as well by assuming I'm a boomer: I'm not. Rather than calling me "uneducated" maybe we ought to make that market more free and remove those barriers, eh? So, if the markets aren't free I should tip a barista for taking 15 seconds to pour black coffee? Sorry, still not biting. They're going to have create a little more value than that; pouring coffee is the expectation. To get a tip, you are going to have to exceed my expectations. After all, I work for a living too.

nons wrote:

Pop a cap off a beer and hand the bottle to you: YES

Make you a custom sandwich at Subway: NO

Put a bagel in a bag: MAYBE

I don't get it.

Me either. The US is so dumb.

Agreed