No Millennials, I will not tip you for putting my bagel in a bag.

OP confuses the word "millennial" with what he means to say: "young people."

The 18-24 year old serving your bagel is not a millennial. Millennials were, by most definitions , born before 1995 and are now 25-35. Peak millennial would be a 1990 date of birth, just about to turn 30. Older than the average bagel-slinger.

The current bagel servers, for the most part, are a new "generation."

It does not follow wrote:

Wages are a reflection of value. Create more value, get paid more money. I fixed your post. You're welcome.

Assuming a free market.

Boomers went crying to the government for decades to put up barriers to entry across the entire workforce (and real estate industry). They are nanny-state-aholics and it shows with uneducated statements like the above.

I'm frustrated by this post. Tips for Bagels, as well as other items, have been a thing before some Millennials were born. Maybe you are forgetting or just want to be negative. Plus, what if they are making your bagels? And the coffee? And adding all the fancy stuff that goes on top of your bagel?

I was just suggesting going on a date. I don't get what I did wrong. Also I never forced her to do anything. I'm waiting for marriage and looking for a soulmate. I never asked her to be an escort. I just thought that because the place was so quiet and I gave her a generous tip that it would be a good opportunity to ask her out while she isn't busy with other customers. I thought she wouldn't be able to say no because I gave her all my money. I regret it now because she probably has way more money than me and I need the money. If I go back can I tell her that I feel bad for what happened and try and get the money I am owed somehow? Has anyone ever recovered a tip after going too much?

TipsforBagels... wrote:

Tips for Bagels, as well as other items, have been a thing before some Millennials were born. Maybe you are forgetting or just want to be negative. Plus, what if they are making your bagels? And the coffee? And adding all the fancy stuff that goes on top of your bagel?

Good point.

Does the idiot OP think that millennials invented tipping?

Here is a concept the OP may have heard of: the "tip jar." Guess what? 90% of retail in the age of millennials behind the counter is basically cash-free. The "tip jar" was a creation of boomers and gen X, likely the generation of the OP.

Rich. People hire the local ski instructors so they can cut the lift lines, and as they pass everyone else, stick their nose up in The air. They can affiord a tip.

trollism wrote:

Do you think 'expecting to be tipped for doing a straightforward job' is a new thing started by millennials in coffee shops?

Exactly. I worked in a 'deli-cafe' back in 1989 - mostly just serving people stuff that was behind the counter. We had a tip jar that said something like 'Tips Welcome'. I didn't put it there, I think the boss did. I think I probably only made $5.00/hour. Probably only picked up another $5.00 or $10.00 in tips at the end of a shift. That's life.

That's why I decided to go to college, then a masters program, and get a real job.

Millennials will get their hard knocks and they'll figure it all out.

Mr. Pink wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sbYy0WdGQ

QT can write some entertaining dialogue.

However, now that I'm older and hardly ever watch any movies or TV, I can't help but feel this whole conversation is absurd for a bunch of criminals who are planning to rob a bank to have. It sound much more like a discussion a bunch of spoiled film school students would have.

I'm not a bank robber, so I don't know how they would talk about this, but it's highly unlikely that the term "female non-collage graduate" would ever be uttered. It's also unlikely the theme of "living wage" would be the centerpiece of the discussion. It's much more likely one of them would just reference that family member they have that is a waitress. End of discussion.

Hollywood is so far up it's own a## they have nothing interesting to say.

celery wrote:

However, now that I'm older and hardly ever watch any movies or TV, I can't help but feel this whole conversation is absurd for a bunch of criminals who are planning to rob a bank to have. It sound much more like a discussion a bunch of spoiled film school students would have.

I'm not a bank robber, so I don't know how they would talk about this, but it's highly unlikely that the term "female non-collage graduate" would ever be uttered. It's also unlikely the theme of "living wage" would be the centerpiece of the discussion. It's much more likely one of them would just reference that family member they have that is a waitress. End of discussion.

Hollywood is so far up it's own a## they have nothing interesting to say.

Wait... are you telling me.... film dialog isn't realistic?

Stop the presses

Hotel room service is the worst. First you pay $18 for a burger that you could get at Applebys for $10 less, then they charge you a $5 delivery fee which they make sure to point out is not a tip, then the delivery person expects the actual tip as well. What a racket.

nomil wrote:

I will tip you if you bring me my food on a plate, fill my water glass and take my plate away when I'm done. I will not tip you if you take a bagel off a shelf and put it in a bag. You fancy white touch screen with a smiley face and suggested tip percentage will not sway me. Sorry.

I have found that the more generous I am, the happier I am. That said, socialism is stupid.

Pizza man!! wrote:

At Pizza Hut carryout last month, there was a tip bucket with a sign that read ‘uncle of our employee died, please leave tip to help’.

You lost me at Pizza Hut.

Harambe wrote:

celery wrote:

However, now that I'm older and hardly ever watch any movies or TV, I can't help but feel this whole conversation is absurd for a bunch of criminals who are planning to rob a bank to have. It sound much more like a discussion a bunch of spoiled film school students would have.

I'm not a bank robber, so I don't know how they would talk about this, but it's highly unlikely that the term "female non-collage graduate" would ever be uttered. It's also unlikely the theme of "living wage" would be the centerpiece of the discussion. It's much more likely one of them would just reference that family member they have that is a waitress. End of discussion.

Hollywood is so far up it's own a## they have nothing interesting to say.

Wait... are you telling me.... film dialog isn't realistic?

Stop the presses

More than just unrealistic, but a complete waste of time to watch.

Really, this post is the most extraordinary assemblage of off the wall generalizations I have ever seen tied on a string in my entire life. It's so crazy it's hardly worth addressing, but let me say just one thing to point out the utter stupidity, without going through all the rest: How many Baby Boomers ever ran 100 miles in a week? I'd guess less than one percent.

This does not involve tipping, but it's a customer service story some might find amusing.

I am blind. I walked up to the deli counter in a Safeway and asked for a sample of potato salad before I decided whether to buy it. He said they had run out of free sample cups, and asked me if I wanted it in my hand.

I said yes, assuming he would put it on something, maybe a tissue paper, and then set it in my hand. I extended my hand. Whap ! the guy took the serving spoon and threw a small serving of potato salad directly into my hand.

I was so taken aback I did not know how to react. I suppose I had a choice: I could have taken a handful of potato salad, reached across the counter, and attempted to smack him in the face with it. Instead, I just could not stop laughing at the utter stupidity I ate it off my hand, grabbed a few napkins and wiped my hands off.

Really, let's stop the generational war. a

This country is full of low-paying jobs! wrote:

I always give them a $10 tip for that. ? It's a rotten, stinkin, low-paying job they have to do.

I used to tip on the low side. This was especially true when I made minimum wage and the servers made more than me. If you tip $10 for the cashier to collect your money, do you realize how much these "poor" workers make per hour? It rarely takes 2 minutes to collect your money. So in a busy hour, they can make over $300 per hour. If the orders are small, and they are quick, they can easily make over $600 per hour. If the tips are consistently under $20 per hour, (2 customers per hour) then the business should not be open for that hour.

Even at an inexpensive restaurant with an inexpensive meal for two people, the tip is rarely below $3. If the waiter/waitress handles 5 table that average 3 (or more customers) every 90 minutes the tips should average over $5 per table or a minimum of $25 for 90 minutes. This is over $16 per hour and there is a good chance some is under the table making it worth even more. If the server does not make more than the check-out clerk at your grocery store then they are either perceived to be terrible at their job or the restaurant has no customers.

Now that I make more money I tip better but I still don't top for take-out or counter service.

nomil wrote:

I will tip you if you bring me my food on a plate, fill my water glass and take my plate away when I'm done. I will not tip you if you take a bagel off a shelf and put it in a bag. You fancy white touch screen with a smiley face and suggested tip percentage will not sway me. Sorry.

You could have made the same point without the shot at millennials.

I tip counter service. It usually is a dollar and it won’t put me on the street. Earning tips helps supplement the low wages many hard working folks earn. Just because you aren’t paid well does not mean you aren’t working hard. If you live a comfortable life, get over yourself and give a small tip for counter service.

I’m not such a dick that I expect my a$$ to be kissed for me to put some change or a few dollars on the cup. It blows my mind how many people here are just generally stingy and negative. Try to see the good in the world and try to add some good to others’ world. It’s not that hard.

I live off of tips.