Where will Grant Fisher Go?

It’s down to The Beast or Bowerman.

It will be based on contracts. Reductions and length of contract is more important than up front dollars.

He’s talking with Ritz another Michigan guy who has had contracts with Nike and Brooks. Also talking with Garrett and Elliot Heath Stanford brothers that have feedback on both companies. The above guy is right, reductions will not be permitted in his contract.

40 posts and 38 of em are so wrong.

A. No chance in hell he goes to Brooks. Runners take less money not to go to Seattle.

B. Tinman? I guess if Adidas pulled out the checkbook and Nike didn’t think he was much better than the rest of their current roster

C. NOP: Grant probably not good enough yet for that atmosphere. Can’t see him training with Kejelcha and Murphy.

D: Bowerman: good fit..more of a college atmosphere with lots of runners at his level

We shall see.

I hope you are right as I believe that Jerry is a far superior Coach than Danny.

But you are 100% wrong if you think that Brooks is not in the picture.

I’m not guessing. I’m telling you. I’ve talked with Grant.

If Jenkins and Engels are with NOP, Grant would be fine

Jgt11 wrote:

If Jenkins and Engels are with NOP, Grant would be fine

I thought Jenkins moved back to New Hampshire. Is that no longer the case/in the cards?

He was listed as NOP in Payton Jordan. Is he doing training on the east coast like 2017 centro?

codaayyee wrote:

With Sean and other Stanford grads with Bowerman, there is a high likelihood of Grant Fisher will be with Bowerman after graduating.

The only other place I see him going is NOP. He did nominate Alberto Salazar for the ALS ice bucket challenge years back, but that could mean anything.

I personally Alberto will give Grant the tools he needs to succeed at the higher level, as his coaching is much more personal and precise.

I get the vibe that Bowerman is a survival of the fittest with high mileage. Great team environment, but I don't think that is what Grant needs.

What do you consider "high mileage"? I have never gotten the idea that Schumacher prescribed high mileage before?

When Teg and Sol were at Wisco there was a long period where they did not even do doubles. Once they changed that around both of them started to really catch fire.

I hope the Beasts.

My guess is 50/50 between them and Bowerman.

thebusiness wrote:

I assume/think, he’s going bowerman, but I feel NOP would be best for his success, followed by teaming with hunter, and Tinman.

I assumed Hunter was paying to have sycophant yesmen as friends to laugh at his lame jokes, dance moves and hipster transformation. How are some of these guys pros/elites running 14+ 5000m?

Rolf2027 wrote:

Grant is most likely signing with Skechers and will train alongside Ches as Skechers tries to build up enough big names to form a track club to rival nike.

Isn’t Reebok doing this?

They need another big name like Fisher. Together, he and knight would cause a lot of future runners to go to Reebok. I think Fisher will have that kind of impact wherever he decides to go and those companies recruiting him know it.

This is crap wrote:

GF can not go to Brooks without Des Linden giving her approval. Remember how upset she was that no one got her approval to bring Ritz into the fold. I still laugh at how ridiculous that was.

She was upset because after speaking out publicly against dopers, the Hansons signed a doper to their team, hanging her out to dry and making her look like a fool.

Predictor wrote:

He is very good but may only run 13:20 over the next few years. In that case, I could see him moving on.

I think your take is the correct one. Grant is used to contending in all of his races. If he's running 13:15 and having a hard time making teams for the US, then I could see him hanging them up well before 2024. It wasn't long ago that the US had an incredible depth from 13:00-13:10. Could Grant be happy being the best 5k guy in America even if he isn't contending at major meets? He will probably try to work 40h a week and also run competitively, haha.

Grant will follow Morgan McDonald. That's what he did at XC Nationals and Indoors. He follows Morgan.

Bs detector... wrote:

40 posts and 38 of em are so wrong.

A. No chance in hell he goes to Brooks. Runners take less money not to go to Seattle.

B. Tinman? I guess if Adidas pulled out the checkbook and Nike didn’t think he was much better than the rest of their current roster

C. NOP: Grant probably not good enough yet for that atmosphere. Can’t see him training with Kejelcha and Murphy.

D: Bowerman: good fit..more of a college atmosphere with lots of runners at his level

And what made your post right?

A) Brooks Beast has some pretty decent training partners for him, good environment. I think they will get a good class over the next few years. It's very low pressure for him, which may be something he needs.

B) Tinman - No

C) Not good enough yet? You have to start somewhere. He's at the level Jenkins was and I know Engels had connections, but he's still better than he was out of college. NOP is very individualized. You'd be surprised how much of the group does their training relatively alone, especially with odd coaching situations between Salazar and Julian. Fisher is already a great tactician, something NOP likes, Jenkins is a good fit for him.

D) Bowerman is so saturated now. Like I could see him going there, but he might just get lost in the group and get burnt out from their training approach.

I hope it's either Beast or NOP. Completely different groups, but both sufficient fits in my opinion.

Has anyone thought of the possibility of him staying with his current coach? I wouldn’t rule it out as he seems 100% bought into his philosophy.

6gftffyhh wrote:

codaayyee wrote:

With Sean and other Stanford grads with Bowerman, there is a high likelihood of Grant Fisher will be with Bowerman after graduating.

The only other place I see him going is NOP. He did nominate Alberto Salazar for the ALS ice bucket challenge years back, but that could mean anything.

https://www.instagram.com/p/r8QfLxrLqJ/

I personally Alberto will give Grant the tools he needs to succeed at the higher level, as his coaching is much more personal and precise.

I get the vibe that Bowerman is a survival of the fittest with high mileage. Great team environment, but I don't think that is what Grant needs.

This is the dumbest speculative post I've ever seen in letsrun

Well then you've just proven yourself to be very ignorant as that's not even top 100. Your post would rank in the top 20 for sure.

To both posts:

All the groups seem to be building with young guys (except for NOP who lost its original direction and plucks top foreign athletes.

Fisher is the top US distance guy coming out of college. And he has appeal/following with kids and adults. His marketability is better than any other US distance runner in a long time. He is good looking, open to speaking with the press and does that very well, humble yet very competitive, bright and the list goes on from there.

All the groups want US content and will pay more for that then faster foreign athletes.

A) Bowerman has older guys and is rebuilding. McGorty is there, they need Fisher. Big Fish, big pond.

A) NOP has Americans in 800 and 1500. Jenkins in 5k, they need Fisher but they also go after foreign athletes to fill gaps. NOP has known baggage that foreign athletes perhaps are less likely to care about. Little Fish will become big Fish in big pond.

B) Brooks is building with young guys and is ahead of other groups in that regard. Kerr is there, they need Fisher. Big Fish, getting to be bigger pond.

C) Reebok has just started. Knight is there, they need Fisher. Big Fish, pond without much water.

D) Adidas is difficult to figure out. Sure Tinman group has Hunter but that group is not set up like the top three but they would absolutely want Fisher. Big Fish too many puddles.

E) Under Armor. Too early to know what direction they are going in. Big Fish, with no clear pond.

F) New Balance. No men’s group to speak of. Rather sexist slant in my opinion. Big Fish, not allowed to swim in female pond.

G) Sketchers. Would absolutely want Fisher and Cheserek together but who knows about their commitment and resources capability. Big Fish, pond could dry up.

H) Aisics and Saucony are trying to get back into the running market after losing market share and will want an elite focus and may go after Fisher but Fisher but they don’t offer what Fisher needs. Big Fish, murky pond.

Salazar get the most out of his athletes, period. They leave and get the illusion they’re better without him for a year and then come crashing to earth. No brainer.