Paul Chelimo MISSES worlds qualifying standard, CAN NOT go to Worlds without it

If you look at the Half-Marathon WR progression it is amazing how many 1:01-1:02 types were also as fast as Wanders or faster in the 10K.

1:02:57 WR / 27:40.96 - Miruts Yifter

1:02:47 WR / 27:43.59 - Tony Simmons

1:02:36 WR / 27:31.19 ('83) - Nick Rose (1:01:03 PR '85)

1:02:16 WR ('80) / 28:38.6 ('80) - Stan Mavis

1:01:47 WR ('81) / 28:05.07 ('84) - Herb Lindsay

1:01:36 WR ('82) / 27:41.92 ('77) - Michael Musyoki (1:00:36 WR '86)

1:01:32 WR ('83) / 27:43.7 ('84) - Paul Cummings

1:01:14 WR ('85) / 27:39.14 ('83) - Steve Jones

1:00:55 WR / 28:01.02 ('84) - Mark Curp

1:00:10 WR (unofficial) / 27:57.5 ('89) - Matthews Temane

1:00:46 WR / 2:08:30 marathoner 3-time consecutive London winner - Dionicio Ceron (no 10k faster than 28:30)

I could keep going but what is the point? Besides Mavis, Lindsay, Curp and Temane (and even these guys ran within 13-20 seconds of his 27:44) these guys all ran what Wanders did for 10K and were :57-3:47 slower at half-marathon.

not that crazy wrote:

Bucks LOSE conference championship, CANNOT go to finals.

I mean, yeah, that's how it works. Sometimes in sports, you have to do a thing in order to be allowed to do another thing. Not really an outrageous idea.

Please don’t drag the Milwaukee Bucks into this. It’s too soon.

Did he wear the Vaporflys in Stockholm?

4.8% wrote:

Did he wear the Vaporflys in Stockholm?

You decide.

Exactly, Half marathon wasn't a big event in the 1980s, even Marathon was nowhere as important and lucrative as it is today, whereas 10000m was much more important than it is today. And some would also argue that specific Marathon training improved a lot in the last 30 years. (And maybe the road running shoes.) All this together does not make comparably poor 10000m times and very good half marathon and marathon times of today mysterious.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Our quick take is instead of going off a Championship from a year ago, the IAAF should fill the fields either off of World Rankings or this years descending order list.

Instead of going off a Championship, they should ditch the concept of "championship" entirely and hand out a fat bonus to the top 5 performers of the year and medals to the top 3.

Nobody wants to see a sit and kick 10,000! It is a joke event and makes the sport look stupid to non fans, and the fans who make excuses for it make the sport look even stupider.

Everyone wants to see a fast 10000!!! Which do people post more of here: Bekele's fast races, or Mo's 27:30 wins? The fact that Kipruto and Gebrhiwet just went really fast in bad conditions is a bigger deal than whatever the WC result will be, unless it's one of the rare 27 flats. Unfortunately, thanks to everyone gunning for the WC, there likely won't be any more fast 10000's before then. As far as I'm concerned, this was the "champs" and Kipruto won.

I understand IAAF will invite athletes if there are no 27 who are entered at september 6, just like for other events. For 10000 it will not be on the ranking, but on the performances during qualification period. At this moment 22 athletes ran the entry standards (times, world cross, area champions).

Lickety Split wrote:

- So happy Chelimo FAILED to qualify ... fake American.

eat slugs.

not out raged wrote:

Wow, deep.

He missed the qualifying standard, so he doesn't qualify and can't go.

Is there a point beyond that?

Yes, there is also the point that if the championships were held today (and not three full months from now) there would only be 22 people squished onto the track for the men's 10,000.

I think this is not correct. They will invite other athletes till they have 27.

seasoned ranker wrote:

As I said in the meet thread, why is it a big deal that he "CAN NOT" (sic) go to Worlds for an event he just lost by 43 seconds in?

What is the big deal with can not? It's a perfectly acceptable use of words. Only the lazy need contractions.

I’m not so much worried about Chelimo as I am about Shadrack and Lenny Korir. Both completely s^#t the bed and ran like 28:20, what’s up with that? A 27:07 10k guy and a 59:52 half marathoner should at least be running 27:50 on a sub par day. Even Erassa, who’s definitely more of a 5k guy, ran 27:52. I think Chelimo can get the standard if he goes for it, maybe at the British 10000m champs (night of pbs as they call it, which typically has multiple European runners aiming for a standard). I guess Shadrack already has the standard but still, that was rough.

I'm not all that familiar with the qualifying process but is this incentive for the USATF 10,000 to be run fast instead of tactical?

Could someone, somewhere, in the US (or world) have a track 10,000?

It's a long enough event for say, Let's Run.com, to have a one event 10,000 and let all-comers run and provide pacers at the standard pace.

seasoned speller wrote:

seasoned ranker wrote:

As I said in the meet thread, why is it a big deal that he "CAN NOT" (sic) go to Worlds for an event he just lost by 43 seconds in?

What is the big deal with can not? It's a perfectly acceptable use of words. Only the lazy need contractions.

You do not need contractions - you can spell it correctly as cannot. But to be fair I goofed as Chelimo actually lost by 53 seconds. Even more reason to not be concerned about him missing the standard.

Then he shouldn't go to the WC. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

runn wrote:

I'm not all that familiar with the qualifying process but is this incentive for the USATF 10,000 to be run fast instead of tactical?

Could someone, somewhere, in the US (or world) have a track 10,000?

It's a long enough event for say, Let's Run.com, to have a one event 10,000 and let all-comers run and provide pacers at the standard pace.

Just shows the stupidity of the IAFF across the board. That they applied this qualifying standard that makes sense to sprint races across the board to events like the 10k which are rarely run shows how incompetent and how little knowledge of the sport they have.

Plus the way the USATF set their standards with the trials doesn't help.

NACAC champion?

Lomong needs to be approved by the IAAF "based on the athlete’s level."

You can't have your level evaluated if you don't race the event.

NACAC shot put champion can't get in with an average discus throw.

If there is an American at 27:43 and Lopez doesn't even run a 10k, he cannot go.

Tower Porklets wrote:

Lickety Split wrote:

- So happy Chelimo FAILED to qualify ... fake American.

The only "real" Americans are the natives.

You mean the natives who didn't care enough about their land to defend it when invaded? Those natives? The ones who had thousands of years to develop technology and grow armies without interruption from Europe, but were armed with sticks and stones when the boats finally arrived?