Got 2.5 weeks until a 5k. Tomorrow I'm planning on doing my 2nd to last interval workout. Recent ones include 6 x 800, 5 x 1000, and 6 x 1000 with a little under equal rest. Should I do 5 x 1200 tomorrow, or do 6 x 1000 again with shorter rest, or buzz off because it doesn't matter?
David Moorcroft took 7 minutes rest between his kilometer reps. Faster than most letsrunners on here who think it is heresy to take anything longer than 2 minutes rest. Just saying.
He also did quite a few 4x60m reps with 30-20sec rest. Just saying.
Alg wrote:
He also did quite a few 4x60m reps with 30-20sec rest. Just saying.
Also a big fan of 600m reps at 1500 pace with 5 minutes rest.
MustacheYouAQuestion wrote:
Got 2.5 weeks until a 5k. Tomorrow I'm planning on doing my 2nd to last interval workout. Recent ones include 6 x 800, 5 x 1000, and 6 x 1000 with a little under equal rest. Should I do 5 x 1200 tomorrow, or do 6 x 1000 again with shorter rest, or buzz off because it doesn't matter?
To maintain a good peak, for a longer racing season, continue the workouts during the sharpening phase but double the recovery (ie two laps jogging instead of one, 4min instead of 2).
I don't think it matters. Just run baby.
MustacheYouAQuestion wrote:
Got 2.5 weeks until a 5k. Tomorrow I'm planning on doing my 2nd to last interval workout. Recent ones include 6 x 800, 5 x 1000, and 6 x 1000 with a little under equal rest. Should I do 5 x 1200 tomorrow, or do 6 x 1000 again with shorter rest, or buzz off because it doesn't matter?
5 x Mile repeats with 3min rest a bit faster than your 10k pace.
David Moorcroft 13 minute 5k PB wrote:
David Moorcroft took 7 minutes rest between his kilometer reps. Faster than most letsrunners on here who think it is heresy to take anything longer than 2 minutes rest. Just saying.
That was becuse he ran them very fast. Just saying.
5 x1200s rest 120 bpm
It matters least..So just chill and focus on your work
MustacheYouAQuestion said: Got 2.5 weeks until a 5k... Should I do 5 x 1200 tomorrow, or do 6 x 1000 again with shorter rest, or buzz off because it doesn't matter?
with 2.5 weeks to go to your race there is virtually nothing you can do, short of jumping under a bus, that will make a significant difference to the outcome. you should have been asking this question in November so that you could have learned, to your advantage, how training progression works.
cheers.
cotton shirt wrote:
with 2.5 weeks to go to your race there is virtually nothing you can do, short of jumping under a bus, that will make a significant difference to the outcome. you should have been asking this question in November so that you could have learned, to your advantage, how training progression works.
cheers.
I think most would disagree and say there's still benefits to be gain from a workout more than 14 days out. But thanks for answering a question that wasn't asked - to each their own.
For 5k pace work I prefer 1/4th distance recovery. So if you're running 400s at 5k pace, 100m recovery jog. 800s or 1ks, 200m jog is probably sufficient. I think you're taking too much rest.
MustacheYouAQuestion said: But thanks for answering a question that wasn't asked - to each their own.
the question you asked in your original post was: Should I do 5 x 1200 tomorrow, or do 6 x 1000 again with shorter rest, or buzz off because it doesn't matter?
the answer I gave was the latter option, it doesn't matter.
so I not only answered the specific question you asked, but explained why.
to each his own, indeed.
cheers.
Those two possible workouts you described aren’t very different.
Juice Springsteen wrote:
Those two possible workouts you described aren’t very different.
That's the point - is there any difference? My plan calls for either one and I'm not picky - I'm not really sure if there's any benefit to one vs. the other.
Ol' cotton shirt missed the point of my question above. The "buzz off because it doesn't matter" component wasn't about the hay being in the barn already. It was about whether I should just pick one because they're pretty much the same - i.e. "it doesn't matter."
cotton shirt wrote:
MustacheYouAQuestion said: But thanks for answering a question that wasn't asked - to each their own.
the question you asked in your original post was: Should I do 5 x 1200 tomorrow, or do 6 x 1000 again with shorter rest, or buzz off because it doesn't matter?
the answer I gave was the latter option, it doesn't matter.
so I not only answered the specific question you asked, but explained why.
to each his own, indeed.
cheers.
I think in your smugness you missed the point. The "doesn't matter" was for comparing the benefits of each workout, not for it being too late to have a meaningful workout. Seems you misinterpreted that, then did it again to try to sound clever.
MustacheYouAQuestion said: The "doesn't matter" was for comparing the benefits of each workout, not for it being too late to have a meaningful workout.
depending on the length of your race, you are going to have 7 - 10 days of taper. since you started 2.5 weeks (17 days) out, minus the taper, leaves you 7 - 10 days of training before you start your taper. in that time you are going to do one, or possibly two sessions of the type your question considers. you have already admitted that there is only a very small difference between the two sessions, which you are going to get to do once, or maybe twice, at most. there is therefore exactly zero difference between the training adaptation possible from one session versus the other.
it doesn't matter which session you do, because it isn't going to make any difference at all to the outcome, because you left it too late to ask your question. and it doesn't matter how many times you re-word your question, or move the goal posts, you should have been asking such questions six months ago so that you had time to benefit from what you learned.
people who resort to name-calling very rarely have an actual point to make.
cheers.
MustacheYouAQuestion wrote:
cotton shirt wrote:
with 2.5 weeks to go to your race there is virtually nothing you can do, short of jumping under a bus, that will make a significant difference to the outcome. you should have been asking this question in November so that you could have learned, to your advantage, how training progression works.
cheers.
I think most would disagree and say there's still benefits to be gain from a workout more than 14 days out. But thanks for answering a question that wasn't asked - to each their own.
Oh, it matters a lot! But I would not be starting anything new unless you are merely running through this particular
5K. A coach I respected once said to me before a state meet 5K, "they will be breathing so you just want to have them
run 6 miles easily." I laughed but it's true. It's kind of hard to change the path you are on. Thank you very little.
cotton shirt wrote:
depending on the length of your race, you are going to have 7 - 10 days of taper. since you started 2.5 weeks (17 days) out, minus the taper, leaves you 7 - 10 days of training before you start your taper. in that time you are going to do one, or possibly two sessions of the type your question considers. you have already admitted that there is only a very small difference between the two sessions, which you are going to get to do once, or maybe twice, at most. there is therefore exactly zero difference between the training adaptation possible from one session versus the other.
it doesn't matter which session you do, because it isn't going to make any difference at all to the outcome, because you left it too late to ask your question. and it doesn't matter how many times you re-word your question, or move the goal posts, you should have been asking such questions six months ago so that you had time to benefit from what you learned.
people who resort to name-calling very rarely have an actual point to make.
cheers.
Good lord, you are a hyper-analytical person. Goalposts aren't being moved just because you misunderstood the original post. I never called you any name, just described your tone of response (unless you count "ol'" as name-calling). By adding clarity to my question, it's clear you fall under the thinking that there's really no difference between the benefits of the two workouts. You're still stuck on this "too late to ask your question," when you yourself said above that there's time to do 1-2 sessions like the above. Sometimes something is just a simple training question and not some opportunity to try to hold a referendum on whether the person had a proper 6 month plan for a 5k.