I am in HS and am wanting to run in college. I am only a sophomore but want to start to looking now at coaches as I feel this plays a big part on decision making
I am in HS and am wanting to run in college. I am only a sophomore but want to start to looking now at coaches as I feel this plays a big part on decision making
Relax.
You will never cut it academically at a D1 school if you aren’t smart enough to look up one of the thousand LRC threads this has been asked before.
B U is goooood
Go to Rutgers
Furman!
Canissius
Or
Univ South Dakota
Check out Lynn University in Florida. Relatively new program, but great weather, beautiful babes, and a really solid freshman group in cross last year. The program spends money like my first wife.
you are scarlet wrote:
Go to Rutgers
And I read in another thread that if you misplace your official Rutgers transcript that there is a company that can send you a replica in less than seven days! You can exchange for a job now!
Glen allen g-code wrote:
Check out Lynn University in Florida. Relatively new program, but great weather, beautiful babes, and a really solid freshman group in cross last year. The program spends money like my first wife.
Lynn University is a Division II school with average Division II academics. If you are even a halfway decent student, you should not consider Lynn University.
More men attend Lynn University than women, so if you are a guy who likes the ladies, you should not consider Lynn University.
45.6% of the classes at Lynn University have more than 20 students. If you don't believe that is a good stat (because it isn't), then you should not consider Lynn University.
The 4-year graduation rate at Lynn University is 44%. That means that too many of the students admitted to this poor academic school can't handle even that low level of academic rigor. If you don't want to be surrounded by a bunch of dolts, then you should not consider Lynn University.
Lynn University finished 5th of 9 teams for men last fall at their conference CC meet. If you want to be on a winning team, then you should not consider Lynn University.
Yes it's in Florida, so if you like that, then you'll like it. Very diverse campus with reportedly good food. Whether there are "babes" there is debatable.
Depends. Are you an 8k or 10k runner.
Mark Wetmore
Mike Smith
Dave Smith
Ryan Vanhoy
Chris Miltenberg
Andy Powell
Jason vigilante
John Hayes
bhjgfg wrote:
Mark Wetmore
Mike Smith
Dave Smith
Ryan Vanhoy
Chris Miltenberg
Andy Powell
Jason vigilante
John Hayes
You’re just naming all the popular names.. the fact that while doing that you dont list Ed eystone just tells me you’re a fanboy. There’s some excellent coaches that will never be named on here because the people that really know don’t list names on letsrun.
You want a coach that knows the sport and you can work with. I can think of three local high school coaches, all very successful, all with very different personalities.
I get along with two of them and the other, while his teams have won the most championships, I don't care for his disposition. He doesn't let his boys team interact with the school's girls teams during meets and he acts as if he's the smartest guy in the room.
I have a friends that are guys that run for a team with a female head coach. Don't cross a school off the list because of the coach's gender or the school's location. If you love marine biology and you love the HC at Miami, even if Miami doesn't win championships, Miami might be the right place for you.
Stanford, NAU and Oregon only takes 4 people per year.
Look for this on team websites: Find teams that had many kids with HS times similar to you. See how these kids progressed.
One of the best questions you can ask a coach is "of your top 7 guys in XC last year, what was the range of their HS cross country times?"
It isn't really about how good the teams are, as they might just be recruiting fast kids. It is more about how well the coach develops kids during their time there, especially kids who come in with HS times similar to yours.
I will say there’s some pretty bad coaches out there. One thing that has always struck a nerve with me after all these years, is how can someone who’s job is to develop college runners have such focus on their own running career and not their athletes?
Now you young people have these social media outlets and you see all these young coaches posting about their own running and it just doesn’t seem like they’re too concerned about their teams success. As long as I’ve been coaching, I’ve never seen a coach who is also still competing, have much coaching success.
Ed Eyestone is top at the moment.
NAU guy
I wish there was an objective measure of this question which was then used to create a database. Anybody have the time on their hands to do this?
Each athlete's HS marks
Same athlete's marks while on the team
Dropout rate before graduation
Percent of athletes who improve while under coach
Historical index of improvement, tied to a coach (logarithmic, given the concept of diminishing returns. IE top athletes expected to improve less than slower athletes)
Dropout rate tied to coach (similar to APR but also not)
Admins care about overall team placement improvement (assuming they care at all)
Athletes should care about individual improvement
Jaminer wrote:
I will say there’s some pretty bad coaches out there. One thing that has always struck a nerve with me after all these years, is how can someone who’s job is to develop college runners have such focus on their own running career and not their athletes?
Now you young people have these social media outlets and you see all these young coaches posting about their own running and it just doesn’t seem like they’re too concerned about their teams success. As long as I’ve been coaching, I’ve never seen a coach who is also still competing, have much coaching success.
Forest Braden formerly of UCLA was the 1st out of the 2016 Olympic Trials for the 5000m while he was still coaching UCLA teams to NCAA XC and having some all-Americans. You might say well that’s easy it is UCLA....but you have to understand HE was the guy who resurrected the distance program after being in the dumps through the decade prior to him being there.
That’s just one notable guy from a notable school. Plenty of other coaches accomplish this. Gig Harbor coach had his team win state same year he ran the 800m at the Trials. Maybe you just don’t hear about them, but since you are saying you have “never” heard of a coach being able to accomplish this...well I just did you a favor and educated you. You are welcome.
Those two guys may be exceptions to the rule but when you see a guy or girl running very very sub elite times I’m talking like 15:00/17:00 for road 5k or 69/80 for half, And at the same time their team is terrible just means they should be probably putting more time into their team. With that said, I see where jaminer is coming from.