BYU Qualifies SIX GUYS to NCAA finals in 10,000

Cheap wrote:

Tuition and fees are around $5600 per year at BYU. About the same as at a comparably rigorous junior college in Mississippi. And BYU gives out academic scholarships to people who score 770 total on the SAT. So, BYU is basically free, and it is worth about that much.

Care to take an objective approach? Expound on why you believe BYU is a cheap university? And while at it, if you want any credibility please address and or refute Forbes findings where the university ranks as #1 in the nation for best value.

There's a world of difference between perception and reality here, it's comical the amount of misinformation and garbage that is spewed from anonymous posters here that is not even deceptively false, it's 180 degrees off!

nofacetimber wrote:

There's a world of difference between perception and reality here, it's comical the amount of misinformation and garbage that is spewed from anonymous posters here that is not even deceptively false, it's 180 degrees off!

Are we talking 180 degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit? Cause that makes a big difference let me tell you!

I always think about that BYU basketball player who got kicked off the team because someone found out he had sex with his girlfriend.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/byu-dismisses-player-from-basketball-team-for-having-premarital-sex

Sure it's a decent school and apparently it's also cheap, but the rules seem a little... harsh

Hey, if you didn't have the grades/ACT to get into BYU, I sympathize. Or if you didn't have enough weiner control to keep from getting your GF pregnant, yeah, sorry, tough break. The school has standards, academic and otherwise, and it's not for everybody. It's okay; UVU is getting to be a pretty decent school and you'll probably do fine there. It might help you feel better for a moment to tell yourself that BYU is a bad school and you didn't want to go there anyway, but in the long run you'll be a lot better off to just admit the facts to yourself: you weren't a good fit for an otherwise good college. Just accept it and move on.

Not a Coach wrote:

I always think about that BYU basketball player who got kicked off the team because someone found out he had sex with his girlfriend.

Sure it's a decent school and apparently it's also cheap, but the rules seem a little... harsh

Isn't that the whole point? Everyone knows the rules before they voluntarily sign up to attend a private institution that is owned by a church. Believe me when I tell you that they make the rules very very clear. Don't blame the rules. Don't freaking go there if you don't like the rules.

This is similar to those people that join the army reserves and then are shocked and outraged when sent to the battlefield.

nofacetimber wrote:

Cheap wrote:

Tuition and fees are around $5600 per year at BYU. About the same as at a comparably rigorous junior college in Mississippi. And BYU gives out academic scholarships to people who score 770 total on the SAT. So, BYU is basically free, and it is worth about that much.

Care to take an objective approach? Expound on why you believe BYU is a cheap university? And while at it, if you want any credibility please address and or refute Forbes findings where the university ranks as #1 in the nation for best value.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900068361/byu-named-best-value-college-by-forbes.html

There's a world of difference between perception and reality here, it's comical the amount of misinformation and garbage that is spewed from anonymous posters here that is not even deceptively false, it's 180 degrees off!

Ranked “best value”, not best education. Yes, it’s cheap. Especially if you are Mormon.

nofacetimber wrote:

Cheap wrote:

Tuition and fees are around $5600 per year at BYU. About the same as at a comparably rigorous junior college in Mississippi. And BYU gives out academic scholarships to people who score 770 total on the SAT. So, BYU is basically free, and it is worth about that much.

Care to take an objective approach? Expound on why you believe BYU is a cheap university? And while at it, if you want any credibility please address and or refute Forbes findings where the university ranks as #1 in the nation for best value.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900068361/byu-named-best-value-college-by-forbes.html

There's a world of difference between perception and reality here, it's comical the amount of misinformation and garbage that is spewed from anonymous posters here that is not even deceptively false, it's 180 degrees off!

BYU is not cheap when you consider that your parents pay 10% of gross every year since they've had a job. And then you will also pay 10% of your gross every year once you get a job for as long as you have a job. That adds up. They play the long game. Highly profitable.

don't skip health class wrote:

Hey, if you didn't have the grades/ACT to get into BYU, I sympathize. Or if you didn't have enough weiner control to keep from getting your GF pregnant, yeah, sorry, tough break. The school has standards, academic and otherwise, and it's not for everybody. It's okay.

Whoa! This guy is the real truth. I identify with this so hard! Control your wieners everybody!

the american way wrote:

Not a Coach wrote:

I always think about that BYU basketball player who got kicked off the team because someone found out he had sex with his girlfriend.

Sure it's a decent school and apparently it's also cheap, but the rules seem a little... harsh

Isn't that the whole point? Everyone knows the rules before they voluntarily sign up to attend a private institution that is owned by a church. Believe me when I tell you that they make the rules very very clear. Don't blame the rules. Don't freaking go there if you don't like the rules.

This is similar to those people that join the army reserves and then are shocked and outraged when sent to the battlefield.

For sure. I'm not saying it's a bad rule. I'm just adding it to the list of reasons I would never go there (If I hadn't already completed college). That and Utah is an ugly desert that makes me depressed.

Not a Coach wrote:

the american way wrote:

Isn't that the whole point? Everyone knows the rules before they voluntarily sign up to attend a private institution that is owned by a church. Believe me when I tell you that they make the rules very very clear. Don't blame the rules. Don't freaking go there if you don't like the rules.

This is similar to those people that join the army reserves and then are shocked and outraged when sent to the battlefield.

For sure. I'm not saying it's a bad rule. I'm just adding it to the list of reasons I would never go there (If I hadn't already completed college). That and Utah is an ugly desert that makes me depressed.

Sounds like you are not a good fit for the school or the state. Case closed

Southern Charm wrote:

Ranked “best value”, not best education. Yes, it’s cheap. Especially if you are Mormon.

Cheap wrote:

"BYU is basically free, and it is worth about that much."

The "cheap" being referred to above and the "cheap" I was responding to is "inferior education, education of little worth etc.." Not referring to cost.

Here is the criteria Forbes uses to determine value, a balanced approach.

20% rank on Forbes 2018 Top Colleges ranking + 20% student debt + 20% alumni earnings + 20% net price + 10% graduation rate + 10% Pell Grant recipients.

So while price factors into the equation it's only 20%. Princeton, Harvard, and Stanford are also ranked in the top 10 using this equation. Anytime you top a ranking that includes these prestigious schools you're in a good place and certainly doing something right.

nofacetimber wrote:

Southern Charm wrote:

Ranked “best value”, not best education. Yes, it’s cheap. Especially if you are Mormon.

Cheap wrote:

"BYU is basically free, and it is worth about that much."

The "cheap" being referred to above and the "cheap" I was responding to is "inferior education, education of little worth etc.." Not referring to cost.

Here is the criteria Forbes uses to determine value, a balanced approach.

20% rank on Forbes 2018 Top Colleges ranking + 20% student debt + 20% alumni earnings + 20% net price + 10% graduation rate + 10% Pell Grant recipients.

So while price factors into the equation it's only 20%. Princeton, Harvard, and Stanford are also ranked in the top 10 using this equation. Anytime you top a ranking that includes these prestigious schools you're in a good place and certainly doing something right.

I don't see having your sex life monitored on that Forbes criteria... Is that factored into their rankings elsewhere? Seems like it might decrease the value ever so slightly.

You know what BYU students and students at your college have in common? They both applied to BYU! :)

byu = clown college

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Who cares about what a shitty college BYU is? I'll probably never encounter anyone who went there, or if I do it isn't likely that they'll mention it. It isn't like a Harvard grad where they'll subtly let it slip within 30 seconds.

Unqualified wrote:

Who cares about what a shitty college BYU is? I'll probably never encounter anyone who went there, or if I do it isn't likely that they'll mention it. It isn't like a Harvard grad where they'll subtly let it slip within 30 seconds.

Big undergrad school + top-rated undergrad business program = you won't see it coming when your boss doesn't laugh at your joke about polygamists. Good luck out there.