Do you guys think I can be recruited by top 20 schools based off my prs and my ecs?

Ivies won't talk to you until you're 4:15 or under.

Guy above me is wrong. 4:25/1:59 is probably not fast enough for an Ivy. Almost certainly not, in fact. But plenty of guys in the 4:16-4:20 range get recruited to Ivies. You definitely don’t have to be under 4:15. Especially if you can run sub 9:20 or sub 1:56 as well. I would guess that 1:56/4:20/9:20 are about the slowest you could possibly run and be recruited to an Ivy (an Ivy, not any Ivy). Your 400 isn’t really good enough to be relevant if I’m honest. Also, academics do not matter that much as long as you are at least average.

Really? My friend got an offer from Harvard and Clemson with a 4:22 1600 m and a 15:45 5k.

do u guys think i have a better chance if i have a sub-16 5k? this is my 2nd yr of track and first year of xc

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do u guys think i have a better chance if i have a sub-16 5k? this is my 2nd yr of track and first year of xc

Now that’s more important. If you’ve been running since middle school and you’re going into senior year with these times, most ivies are gonna keep looking. But running those times this soon (and with a lot of natural speed evidenced by the 400 time) you show a lot of potential. Work on your endurance (mileage) this summer and improve that 5k and they’ll come knockin, or at least pick up the phone

One of my high school teammates was recruited to Harvard with slightly better PRs than yours. I think you have a good shot if you can improve a little. Keep at it :)

As usual, nobody on Letsrun knows what they're talking about because none of them have actually been recruited at an Ivy. Looking at your grades, you should be fine to get into any of those schools on the coach's word. JHU and CMU are definitely a step-down teamwise, but that might not be a bad thing for you. I would personally strongly recommend you contact those coaches right now if you're interested in going there. One thing to remember with Ivies is that they want you to commit early; they'll take a 4:25 guy who's 100% committed at the beginning of his senior year over a 4:20 guy who can't make up his mind until outdoor track. I wasn't recruited by Harvard or Penn (they were a step up from the Ivy that I was recruited at) but I'm sure they have a similar admissions process and would do the same thing.

Your times won’t get you recruted by any Ivies but the slower ones would let you walk on. Are you white or Asian? If so, you aren’t getting in. If you are upper middle class, your parents may not want to pay the price even if you get in. Read this study from a Princeton professor tonsee why you shouldn’t attend an ivy unless the price is equivalent to your other options.

https://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/the-college-solution/2011/03/01/the-ivy-league-earnings-myth

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XC you need to make footlocker nationals to be recruited. Otherwise you’re going to them.

Track... I had a kid run 4:12/1:51 and go unrecruited. Did get to walk on Tho. Good luck.

Thats crazy because 4:20/9:35 gets you letters from some schools.. how exactly do you define “recruiting”

Recruited at an Ivy means the coach gets you admitted.

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XC you need to make footlocker nationals to be recruited. Otherwise you’re going to them.

Track... I had a kid run 4:12/1:51 and go unrecruited. Did get to walk on Tho. Good luck.

Thats crazy because 4:20/9:35 gets you letters from some schools.. how exactly do you define “recruiting”

I don’t count getting letters as recruiting. Those a generic form letters asking to fill out info on their athlete recruit webpage.

In regards to being recruited I mean the coach calls you and offers you money. Similar to what you see in football or volleyball for girls.

Why did you pick those schools in particular? Have you considered either Dartmouth or Columbia?

im not really a fan of columbia dartmouth and the schools listed are more well fitted for my major

lol i just want a boost in admissions, don't mind being a recruited walkon

If a 4:12/1:51 kid goes unrecruited, then there is a problem with that kid; known personality problem, dumb as a stump, something. All of those kids get recruited. 1:51 guys go to Power 5 conference schools.

Johns Hopkins and Carnegie Mellon are of course not Ivy League colleges and are also Division III. Those programs would be interested in talking to you.

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In regards to being recruited I mean the coach calls you and offers you money. Similar to what you see in football or volleyball for girls.

Do any of those schools give money for track? Football? Volleyball?