Game of Thrones Season 8 is the worst piece of crap ever written

Blame GRRM. He gave the show runners all the major end points.

It does seem rushed. I think another episode dealing with Dany’s fall toward madness would have been fine and cutting the long episodes to 60 then rolling over the extra.

The Night King isn’t even in the books. It’s totally a show only villain and was obviously always going to be something they could use for a spin off.

I have enjoyed this season as good as any other.

Alan

Donny Johngyt wrote:

It wouldn't have been too terribly hard to strip the plot armor of the characters and still keep them alive. It used to be characters would die in spite of their intelligence, usually because of only small errors in judgment. Now we have characters living in spite of their stupidity, and in GoT that only happens because of plot armor.

All these characters could be alive still, the writing just has them being stupid and landing themselves in terrible situations which they just miraculously survive from.

See: the dothraki charge yet there's dothraki. Jorah survives despite being at the front of that mess, Greyworm lives despite being at the front of the unsullied. Danny lives despite landing in the middle of the undead. Danny's fleet makes it out, despite getting completely caught by surprise at dragonstone. Like Season 8 is just littered with characters surviving horrible mistakes.

Or how the heck Sam survived the Battle of Winterfell considering how he's a terrible swordsman/fighter?

Well yes wrote:

The fact that not one person has replied that they like this season is shocking. it must be universally hated lol.

I like this season. It's different than the earlier seasons and the quality of the plot lines have gone down, but I still can't wait until Sunday to see the finale and have enjoyed this season.

But I'm not going to get into an argument about it because (1) I have enough things in my life to truly care about...a TV show isn't one of them and (2) people can enjoy or not enjoy things all they want. It makes no difference to me. If someone hates season 8, that has absolutely no effect on my experience of the show. So why bother getting into an argument about it?

I think if GRRM had his way we would have 5 more seasons. He may be dead before he even finishes the last book.

My only issue with earlier seasons is that you had too many storylines all over the place. Now everyone is in the same place.

I thought Dany’s mad queen turn made perfect sense if you paid attention to her actions not words since season 1 AND her moral compass and closest advisor/friend both died.

I thought Cersei’s death made perfect ? sense in how it happened. It’s not what fans wanted but it’s what made sense, again if you have followed her actions since season 1.

Alan

character driven wrote:

What made earlier GoT great is that even though it was high action, it was always at its heart character driven. The plot followed the characters, not the other way around. They've just really lost sight of this core aspect of the show as they've tried to move the plot along to wrap things up.

Well, part of what made that so captivating was the scale of the setting. Danny was fighting slaveholders in the desert and Jon was fighting the dead or mutineering knights in the sub-arctic, while Arya was practicing water dancing while Sansa was marrying Joffrey in Kings Landing, etc etc ... there was simply SO MUCH going on .... that's a big part of what made the writing so powerful.

The final season was always going to narrow that down; it had to. Things start to coalesce around a few particular places, and the characters come together in those locations.

I think the focus shifts away from character development in many stories. We already know who and where they are. The final season/s become more about what happens. And that was always going to (largely) be big battles.

While I think some of the choices have felt a bit simpler than I'd expected, I think any final season of this show was destined to lose a lot of the things that made it so great.

I haven't seen even 1 second of Game of Thrones. But I've seen headlines of abysmal mistakes such as a Starbucks cup left on a table. That's just pure laziness on behalf of the actors, producers, directors, and camera team.

Hopefully with the show done he'll finally finish writing a book.

dirtlord wrote:

Hopefully with the show done he'll finally finish writing a book.

Meh.

I’ve enjoyed the series. Apparently a lot of people have. The latest episode was watched by more people than anything other episode in the series. Haven’t read any of the books. I’m a cliff notes kind of guy.

The series started off with more shock value, tons of nudity, incest, etc.

At least it knows when to quit. I stopped watching The Walking Dead about half way through this season. It’s just a bunch of people no one is invested in now.

Alan

sbeefyk2 wrote:

I haven't seen even 1 second of Game of Thrones. But I've seen headlines of abysmal mistakes such as a Starbucks cup left on a table. That's just pure laziness on behalf of the actors, producers, directors, and camera team.

You really think that was an accident? Doubtful.

Alan

wow OP what an totally unique take.

The amount of hate people throw at TV shows and movies that don't go the way they want is hysterical. Ya'll are getting very worked up about a piece of fiction that you can simply choose not to watch. Why does everyone feel like they have to let everyone know how they felt about every show and movie they watch. Don't you have a friend you can complain to and spare the rest of us your uninspired opinion?

All of these successful cable series (Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, etc.) have lame final seasons because the entire series is about the tension between the main character and what seems like their inevitable fate. The shows are interesting because of that tension. When the shows finally move to the resolution of that tension, it is always a big let down. GoT is especially difficult because there isn't a central character. Instead, there is an ensemble of characters and story lines all related to the central plot line of who will ascend to the throne. GoT only has 8 episodes to resolve what happens to Arya, Sansa, Cersei &Jamie, John Snow and Dany. But it also has to deal with lots of secondary characters too, like Tyrion, Grey Worm, Greyjoy, Brienne, etc. GoT's solution is to just pick off the secondary characters on each episode while the main characters have huge battles. That has been a bit of a mess.

Runningart2004 wrote:

I think if GRRM had his way we would have 5 more seasons. He may be dead before he even finishes the last book.

My only issue with earlier seasons is that you had too many storylines all over the place. Now everyone is in the same place.

I thought Dany’s mad queen turn made perfect sense if you paid attention to her actions not words since season 1 AND her moral compass and closest advisor/friend both died.

I thought Cersei’s death made perfect ? sense in how it happened. It’s not what fans wanted but it’s what made sense, again if you have followed her actions since season 1.

Alan

Dany's mad queen turn may have made sense at a high level, but the way they did it made no sense. She's sitting in the city, on her huge dragon, staring across at smug Cersei in the Red Keep. The one person she has wanted to kill and replace for 8 seasons. And instead of riding for her for revenge for Missandei and to reclaim her throne, she just starts burning the city. She actually stopped the attack on Cersei before finishing the job. That makes no sense. If she had killed Cersei first, it would have made a lot more sense. Same thing for Arya too. 8 years of reciting Cersei's name every night, and you ride to the capital the whole time with a strong conviction to kill Cersei, and then you get to the red keep, and "Meh, I changed my mind. I'm going to seek a life of peace now."

Go look back at previous seasons. Dany has spoken about burning cities for a long time.

Also did you notice the Ravens flying around the Red Keep? Reminds her of Varys betrayal.

I think she sees the Red Keep and Kings Landing as “The Wheel”. In her mind as long as it’s intact and the people keep believing in tyrants then she hasn’t done her job. But in the process does she also become a tyrant? Maybe not in her mind.

Those closest to her from the beginning who were basically her moral compass and trying to guide her (Mormont, Missandei. Varys...) are all dead now.

With Arya, it took someone more vengeful than her to convince her not to continue on a suicide mission. Cersei was going to die anyway. Arya has more to life for than The Hound and he helped her realize that.

Again both plot points happened way too quick without much build up.....another episode of Dany spiraling and questioning what to do and Arya traveling with The Hound going over their motivations would have worked better.

Really. Who cares. It’s all in good fun.

The best parts of the show were the duels and battles anyway. The Mountain and The Viper was cool.

Alan

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Yes, GoT sucks unless you have the mind of an 8-10-year-old boy.

Yet you watch it , and give you evaluation .

sbeefyk2 wrote:

I haven't seen even 1 second of Game of Thrones. But I've seen headlines of abysmal mistakes such as a Starbucks cup left on a table. That's just pure laziness on behalf of the actors, producers, directors, and camera team.

You have see the 1 second of the Starbucks clip.

IPod for Shoe wrote:

sbeefyk2 wrote:

I haven't seen even 1 second of Game of Thrones. But I've seen headlines of abysmal mistakes such as a Starbucks cup left on a table. That's just pure laziness on behalf of the actors, producers, directors, and camera team.

You have see the 1 second of the Starbucks clip.

No way that wasn’t a planned clip. It gets people talking about both the series and Starbucks.

Alan

sbeefyk2 wrote:

I haven't seen even 1 second of Game of Thrones. But I've seen headlines of abysmal mistakes such as a Starbucks cup left on a table. That's just pure laziness on behalf of the actors, producers, directors, and camera team.

I don't think you know what "behalf" means.

UJoh wrote:

Watching a beloved show fall from greatness to complete cliched crap in 8 seasons is so sad.

The show runners were always gonna get crap about how the show ended. Frankly, I dont care how it ends but I do care about the motivations and pacing and writing to get there. All have been terrible.

I loved all 8 seasons . The White walkers didn't make sense , the human conflict stuff was better . When Cersi takes revenge ,

It made me happy . same with the young white brothel hoes.

After 8 seasons the characters have finally succeeded in becoming completely superficial. They are little more than stage costumes now. Character has given way to mere action. I've stopped caring about any of them, or who gains the Iron Throne. John Snow still knows nothing. I hope they all disappear from the screen in a gust of dragon breath.