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What else would you expect from the Farah Family? The mister is caught lying quite a lot, rumors suggest doping ****deleted by LRC ****; and the missus just comes off as an angry, mean, entitled, and disgruntled person. This behavior is par for the course.
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https://www.kgw.com/amp/article?section=money&subsection=business&headline=abrupt-closure-of-beaverton-spa-leaves-customers-out-hundreds-of-dollars&contentId=283-f23293ec-232d-47aa-a2d3-a3405284fcaa
How many more years of professional running does Mo Farah have? He’s done at the end of 2020, right?
Can’t wait for the entire Farah clan to fade into obscurity.
When a business fails, customers who paid for goods and services that have not been provided are sh#t out of luck. Of course, the spa cannot charge customers for services after going out of business. But absent a specific regulation or a term in a contract, consumers have no right to refunds when a business fails before delivering promised goods and services. If the business goes into bankruptcy, you are a creditor and will probably see $0.00 as secured creditors generally get all the $. And it doesn't matter whether the owner of the business made millions or is married to a millionaire or is a billionaire and the president of the United States. It is 100% legal for a business to close and use its revenues to pay creditors instead of refunding customers.
Precious Roy wrote:
When a business fails, customers who paid for goods and services that have not been provided are sh#t out of luck. Of course, the spa cannot charge customers for services after going out of business. But absent a specific regulation or a term in a contract, consumers have no right to refunds when a business fails before delivering promised goods and services. If the business goes into bankruptcy, you are a creditor and will probably see $0.00 as secured creditors generally get all the $. And it doesn't matter whether the owner of the business made millions or is married to a millionaire or is a billionaire and the president of the United States. It is 100% legal for a business to close and use its revenues to pay creditors instead of refunding customers.
That's kind of what I was thinking but are we certain the business failed? Did it file for bankruptcy? If the owner just ups and leaves to the UK, is that really failing? We have no indication there was a failing.
It could have been she just didn't want to run it from afar and upped and left. I wonder what their lease was like.
Precious Roy wrote:
When a business fails, customers who paid for goods and services that have not been provided are sh#t out of luck. Of course, the spa cannot charge customers for services after going out of business. But absent a specific regulation or a term in a contract, consumers have no right to refunds when a business fails before delivering promised goods and services. If the business goes into bankruptcy, you are a creditor and will probably see $0.00 as secured creditors generally get all the $. And it doesn't matter whether the owner of the business made millions or is married to a millionaire or is a billionaire and the president of the United States. It is 100% legal for a business to close and use its revenues to pay creditors instead of refunding customers.
Surely Tania (or whatever business entity) is liable for “ongoing charges” to customers’ credit cards after the spa was inaccessible?
Every time a story like this comes out I think about Lance and what a bad person he was as well.
Precious Roy wrote:
When a business fails, customers who paid for goods and services that have not been provided are sh#t out of luck. Of course, the spa cannot charge customers for services after going out of business. But absent a specific regulation or a term in a contract, consumers have no right to refunds when a business fails before delivering promised goods and services. If the business goes into bankruptcy, you are a creditor and will probably see $0.00 as secured creditors generally get all the $. And it doesn't matter whether the owner of the business made millions or is married to a millionaire or is a billionaire and the president of the United States. It is 100% legal for a business to close and use its revenues to pay creditors instead of refunding customers.
No Kidding? You don't need a 2nd grade education to figure that out dummy! It has nothing to do with that and everything thing to do with a worthless POS like the whole Farah clan as a previous post mentioned.
ivy grad wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
When a business fails, customers who paid for goods and services that have not been provided are sh#t out of luck. Of course, the spa cannot charge customers for services after going out of business. But absent a specific regulation or a term in a contract, consumers have no right to refunds when a business fails before delivering promised goods and services. If the business goes into bankruptcy, you are a creditor and will probably see $0.00 as secured creditors generally get all the $. And it doesn't matter whether the owner of the business made millions or is married to a millionaire or is a billionaire and the president of the United States. It is 100% legal for a business to close and use its revenues to pay creditors instead of refunding customers.
That's kind of what I was thinking but are we certain the business failed? Did it file for bankruptcy? If the owner just ups and leaves to the UK, is that really failing? We have no indication there was a failing.
It could have been she just didn't want to run it from afar and upped and left. I wonder what their lease was like.
They just left. There was no bankruptcy. Ongoing credit card charges have zero ability to be argued as appropriate.
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Precious Roy wrote:
It is 100% legal for a business to close and use its revenues to pay creditors instead of refunding customers.
We don't care about your legalese.
It's not moral to just leave without any communication. If you take money from customers without giving a product or service, then that sounds a lot like theft.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/apr/25/gebrselassie-claims-farah-punched-and-kicked-husband-and-wife-at-hotelHaile Gebrselassie said, "Immediately Farah punched them and kicked them by foot. Especially the husband. There were lots of witnesses. He cannot deny it because there was enough people inside the gym who saw the action."
https://swiftgirlathletics.wordpress.com/2019/04/26/a-not-so-brief-history-of-mo-farahs-relationship-with-jama-aden"Mo Farah publishes his autobiography, 'Twin Ambitions' and confirms that he has, by 2013, known Jama Aden for a considerable amount of time." Mohammed Farah lied about his relationship with Coach Aden.
Turns out Farah really did need that $3000 that was stolen in EPOpia. He is broke.
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ivy grad wrote:
That's kind of what I was thinking but are we certain the business failed? Did it file for bankruptcy? If the owner just ups and leaves to the UK, is that really failing? We have no indication there was a failing.
It could have been she just didn't want to run it from afar and upped and left. I wonder what their lease was like.
They just left. There was no bankruptcy. Ongoing credit card charges have zero ability to be argued as appropriate.
Everyone should nail them with chargebacks. Pretty sure those wreck the ol’ credit score.
Precious Roy wrote:
When a business fails, customers who paid for goods and services that have not been provided are sh#t out of luck. Of course, the spa cannot charge customers for services after going out of business. But absent a specific regulation or a term in a contract, consumers have no right to refunds when a business fails before delivering promised goods and services. If the business goes into bankruptcy, you are a creditor and will probably see $0.00 as secured creditors generally get all the $. And it doesn't matter whether the owner of the business made millions or is married to a millionaire or is a billionaire and the president of the United States. It is 100% legal for a business to close and use its revenues to pay creditors instead of refunding customers.
The difference is as follows: the business closed then charged customers for services AFTER it was closed. That's called fraud. It's similar to the following: I take pictures of a hotel. You purchase a room for the hotel online. You arrive a week later and discover there never was a hotel. Would you say you have no legal right to get your money back? If so, I have a hotel for you to stay in. It's magnificent!!
Reality Check wrote:
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Yeah, this thread is kind of gossipy.
Not surprised I the least wrote:
What else would you expect from the Farah Family? The mister is caught lying quite a lot, rumors suggest doping ****deleted by LRC ****; and the missus just comes off as an angry, mean, entitled, and disgruntled person. This behavior is par for the course.
Broke Mo's behavior is just more proof that poor people be crazy.
doot doot wrote:
How many more years of professional running does Mo Farah have? He’s done at the end of 2020, right?
Can’t wait for the entire Farah clan to fade into *Legend.
Just corrected that for you there.
Pretty sure you already understand that Sir Mo's Double Double Olympic Golds will become (/ already are) the stuff of distance running folklore and will be as revered alongside Zátopek, Bikila, etc.
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
When a business fails, customers who paid for goods and services that have not been provided are sh#t out of luck. Of course, the spa cannot charge customers for services after going out of business. But absent a specific regulation or a term in a contract, consumers have no right to refunds when a business fails before delivering promised goods and services. If the business goes into bankruptcy, you are a creditor and will probably see $0.00 as secured creditors generally get all the $. And it doesn't matter whether the owner of the business made millions or is married to a millionaire or is a billionaire and the president of the United States. It is 100% legal for a business to close and use its revenues to pay creditors instead of refunding customers.
The difference is as follows: the business closed then charged customers for services AFTER it was closed. That's called fraud. It's similar to the following: I take pictures of a hotel. You purchase a room for the hotel online. You arrive a week later and discover there never was a hotel. Would you say you have no legal right to get your money back? If so, I have a hotel for you to stay in. It's magnificent!!
Did you read the second sentence I wrote?
Also, if you book a room in a hotel that does exist and is in business, but goes out of business by the time you arrive, you have no right to a refund. You get in line with all the other creditors.
Businesses fail all the time and leave customers and employees in the lurch. Everyone goes crying to the local consumer reporter and has them go out to the shuttered location to pointlessly knock on the door. I made this post to shine light on the fact that the law on this situation is completely skewed in favor of banks who have security interests. Consumers and employees do not see a dime in bankruptcy until the secured creditor gets back 100% of what they are owed. Of course, there is an exception for fraud, but proving that the people running the business knew they were going out of business and only took in revenue for their own benefit of for the benefit of creditors is extremely difficult because every business that fails has a period where the owners are trying to keep the business afloat but know that the ship is sinking. The law is very deferential to business owners in that situation and rarely gives the consumers relief.
Reality Check wrote:
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Almost me. I didn't realize she owned it though. I was just looking for a place to get a massage and it was close, but I went for a different business instead.
Let's not forget an earlier instance (September 2016) in which Mrs. Farah was reported to have acted rudely because she apparently felt entitled.
https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/did-mo-farahs-wife-call-airline-worker-fng-pathetic-2066622