Why beginners HAVE TO listen to music while advanced CAN'T listen to music?

The truth is I would run further if there was music. A music player, headphones and a rock song, I can run without fatigue

Jessay wrote:

Because most advanced runners like to think they’re better than everyone else and will say/think anything to make them seem better than somebody else. I enjoy running with music and I am almost at a sub 15 5k, it’s really not a big deal and when running high mileage it makes it more enjoyable, I could do it without and did for a few years but why should I make running feel as mundane as possible just to feel like I am above others?

Except how is being outside mundane? There is plenty to see and hear and take note of when you're doing a nice and easy run. Even if you're running a 1 mile loop around a pond, you could see something different every loop.

I'd hardly call nature "mundane", not even mentioning there is plenty to pay attention to with regards to your own breathing, form, cadence, etc. as you run.

gdeegz wrote:

Never ever ever wrote:

Never did that when I started to run. Though lately started listening to podcast. It has helped in bumping up my mileage.

I find that listening to podcasts makes lonely long runs a lot more bearable.

Which podcasts?

Confirmed 2 B tru wrote:

I can confirm what's been said in this thread.

However, then the sun came out and I was able to move again. Wow - thanks guys all this bro science was so helpful - I will never run with headphones again! I don't want to forget how to move when it comes time to race!

That's awful! How long were you lying on the ground for?

Advanced runner can run with music, they just choose not to.

Hate to break it to you but if you don’t occasionally find running mundane then you aren’t running nearly enough miles and clearly are not coming even close to your genetic ceiling.

big big miles wrote:

Hate to break it to you but if you don’t occasionally find running mundane then you aren’t running nearly enough miles and clearly are not coming even close to your genetic ceiling.

Partially true, but when you are doing weeks with big miles then listening to podcasts is like multitasking simply because running takes up so much of your free time. So why not combine running and "reading". Totally different to beginner runners "distracting" themselves with music.

Yes, the advanced runners CAN listen to music or podcast, but usually chose not to. I can see listening to a podcast during a long run alone, or if you're doubling and getting in that boring routine 6-10M.

I chose to no listen to anything because I find myself fidgeting with the headphones or player the entire time and not getting anything done on my run. Also I like the time in my head with my own thoughts.

As far as beginners, if thats what they need to get them out the door, so be it. I stopped caring about noobies a long time ago.

I always get called a hobby jogger by my teammates for running with headphones in on non practice days. I think it's a great way to fully digest an album and makes the run more enjoyable. I'm tired of the running with music slander.

That’s what I do. Podcast til it’s done, some jams til I’m home. Obviously not on workouts though

And running with headphones on a treadmill is a must.

That question is also the question for how long?

Are you running a sub 14 5k time? If not, you are not an “advanced runner“. That’s the bare minimum of someone with a little bit of talent and consistent training.

I feel like this works only in the world of advances musicians, not in the whole field of people that work with music on a daily basis. The while thing goes around the claims for copyright. If your job is to write music and that's what you do for a living, of course it would be a shame to like a song so much you copy it without intending to do so. I agree with that, coming from a person that works with royaty-free music for a living. If I listen to too many ads, I might enjoy one too much and copy the idea by mistake. It would cause the brand a lot of trouble. On the other hand, critics have to listen to as many songs are possible. It's useful to work with a vast music library that offers loats of choices, so it's easy to get a unique idea from it. This is the library that I work with https://depositphotos.com/music.html

It’s nice that you run sub 15 5k. But if you can’t run sub 14, technically you are still a hobby jogger. Sorry.

Jessay wrote:

Because most advanced runners like to think they’re better than everyone else and will say/think anything to make them seem better than somebody else. I enjoy running with music and I am almost at a sub 15 5k, it’s really not a big deal and when running high mileage it makes it more enjoyable, I could do it without and did for a few years but why should I make running feel as mundane as possible just to feel like I am above others?