D2 East Conference-XC Regionals

They're definitely in the mix when it comes to the East Region. AIC and Stonehill will pretty much always have really solid squads, with So. Conn + SNHU also being competitive teams. I certainly don't think you'll go wrong choosing that school. I think next years regional meet will be pretty close between several teams for that third spot though.

Its very possible for you guys to make nationals because of how garbage the region is, although the Northeastern region doesn't get many at-large bids (and for a very good reason, they SUCK). Just look how SNHU did in 2018 with the one at large bid that they gave to the Northeast out of pure pity.... DEAD last place with 1006 points. S. Connecticut was second to last, with more NE and MidAtlantic teams following suit.

midwestrunner69 wrote:

Its very possible for you guys to make nationals because of how garbage the region is, although the Northeastern region doesn't get many at-large bids (and for a very good reason, they SUCK). Just look how SNHU did in 2018 with the one at large bid that they gave to the Northeast out of pure pity.... DEAD last place with 1006 points. S. Connecticut was second to last, with more NE and MidAtlantic teams following suit.

Lol, out of pity. If you actually knew anything about the situation, you'd know that the Selection Committee actually ran the formula and the program selected SNHU multiple times. After someone found the mistake and let the NCAA know, they went back in found the bug in the formula and have since adjusted it and retested it. (Source: my former college coach is on the Selection Committee)

Also, you sound like an absolute moron saying that they were given the spot out of pity.

Third spot for regionals is always open waters and usually goes to whoever has the best day. Bentley 3-4 years came out of nowhere and surprised the whole region after schools like Adelphi and Franklin Pierce were ranked 3rd and 4th the whole season. Two years ago Merrimack came for a surprise after SNHU and Adelphi were favorites. It's whoever has the best day. AIC and Stonehill are always automatics

That's not the whole story with the SNHU selection debacle. Part of the blame goes to the Sport Committee who has the final say on the at-large selections. In the process of comparing two teams who were under consideration they errored when they should've selected Western Oregon.

In the selection process during a round of comparing teams under selection for the next at-large team admitted into the field the teams under consideration happened to be Western Oregon who was 6th in the West Region against the next team up from the other seven regions. Western Oregon was selected automatically over six of the other schools based on results, etc., used by the objective computer formula system, but Western Oregon had no common opponents with SNHU who was 4th in the East (other than Bentley who they both beat).

In the order of criteria listed to be used for at-large selections if that happens then and only then does the D2 XC Sport Committee make a subjective decision of which team to select. The eight member Sport Committee is made up of four athletic administrators and four coaches who represent the eight regions. Because SNHU had won their conference and was 4th in the East the administrators insisted that they were a more worthy selection than Western Oregon who was 6th in the West and 4th in GNAC regardless of the fact that the GNAC was a very good conference (1st, 2nd an 3rd place had already been selected for the meet from their conference) and the West Region was probably the second deepest region behind the South-Central Region. Of course the coaches knew that Western Oregon was the better team (just look at the results from the Lewis meet and who they beat including Southern Indiana who was selected as an at-large team). In the eyes of the administrators though they think xc is like other sports where a conference champion should get selected for post-season. When in xc that really doesn't mean anything because a conference could be weaker.

All that to say SNHU should not have been selected over Western Oregon and the national results showed that. The Sport Committee knows that they made a mistake and hopefully they do it right next time. Nothing against SNHU but the when you have almost 300 teams and only 10 are selected at-large then those 10 should be pretty good teams.

Any updates thoughts on who looks like team/individual contenders for East Region?

Stone hill is a lock, I’m sure, but who else?

I would say always in contention for the 3rd spot in the Region, with the potential some years to at least challenge the top two teams. This should be a really good year for them (returning 6 out of their top 7, while adding a red-shirt senior who was 15th at Regionals two years ago). Plus most of their runners ran pr's in track which is usually a good sign for the following cross country season.

East Stroudsburg for sure. Rising squad and some incredible recruits.

Wrong region for East Strouburg (Atlantic). Also, SNHU was 4th in the conference (NE10), not champs. They beat a few teams early (but were beaten by them later).

Roberts looked pretty good yesterday, granted 5k and weak competition, but I was there and their top 4 look solid, if they can bring along their 5,6 & 7 they’ll be in the mix.

http://www.leonetiming.com/2019/XC/HamiltonShortMen.htm

Seems like there top 5 were all together which is a good sign for sure

East Stroudsburg for da win yo.

easterburgers wrote:

East Stroudsburg for da win yo.

As Jing Yang would way, Not hot dog. I think this year in D2 you'll see Queens completely skyroketit.

East Stroudburg isn’t even in the East region. Today’s rankings has Southern Conn at #1, Roberts Wesleyan #2 followed by Stonehlll, American International and SNHU.

http://www.ustfccca.org/2019/09/featured/2019-ncaa-dii-cross-country-regional-rankings-week-2

Roberts guys are no joke, our squad ran against them Saturday and got smoked! It was embarrassing. I don’t know any of the guys personally but the dude that won looked like he was out for a Sunday stroll and wasn’t even working hard. We’re a D3 squad and I’m happy we don’t have to compete against them during championship season. Here’s the results from the meet.

http://leonetiming.com/2019/XC/AndersonMen.htm

any thoughts on the east region top individuals or top teams. pretty much everyone was racing this weekend.

We’ve been looking at this region and I think this is a year for a big shake-up and some surprises. For individuals, I like Lukas Taxter from Stonehill and Christopher Sims from Roberts Wesleyan. Either could win it all on a good day, but my money is on Sims for the upset. He’s been a bit of a sleeper, but had a good track season and seems to be getting faster every race in XC this year.

Teams I think Southern Conn wins, Roberts Wesleyan 2nd and American International 3rd. Stonehill could sneak in for 3rd, but they lack some consistency IMO.

dont sleep on chris davitt

Roberts Wesleyan has the best top 5 in the east region. Stonehill looks very strong as usual. Lots of experience. Southern Connecticut won their conference last year and ran well at Paul Short. Southern New Hampshire returns 4 of their top 5.

1. Roberts Wesleyan

2. Stonehill

3. Southern Connecticut

4. Southern New Hampshire