Slow people and vaporfly

Why should slow runners be expected to wear a disadvantageous shoe that makes them even slower?

I bet he gets annoyed at anyone that can't run sub 2:10 wearing the 4%.

Anyway fact is that running is a highly affluent hobby. Its just as affluent as golf and tennis. A lot of hobby joggers are doctors and dentists and lawyers who have plenty of extra money to spend on expensive shoes. They love running but don't have time to run 120 a week. But they challenge themselves on race day and expect the best out of themselves.

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runnER/DR wrote:

I bet he gets annoyed at anyone that can't run sub 2:10 wearing the 4%.

Anyway fact is that running is a highly affluent hobby. Its just as affluent as golf and tennis. A lot of hobby joggers are doctors and dentists and lawyers who have plenty of extra money to spend on expensive shoes. They love running but don't have time to run 120 a week. But they challenge themselves on race day and expect the best out of themselves.

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Have you never been cycling? wrote:

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runnER/DR wrote:

I bet he gets annoyed at anyone that can't run sub 2:10 wearing the 4%.

Anyway fact is that running is a highly affluent hobby. Its just as affluent as golf and tennis. A lot of hobby joggers are doctors and dentists and lawyers who have plenty of extra money to spend on expensive shoes. They love running but don't have time to run 120 a week. But they challenge themselves on race day and expect the best out of themselves.

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Highly affluent? Maybe more than the general population, but have you ever been cycling. $250 shoes are nothing. I just spent that on an low-middish pair of cycling shoes. I need a new road bike, but I’m resisting, because I can’t imagine dropping less than $3500.

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I am on the fence of the four percent.
I even bought one, and returned it without really trying it on. I'd love to try them sometime, but then again I don't really want to be that person. In my last race there was a guy in front of me with the four percent and yes you could see some bounce. That being said I think it's weird for people to get the shoes because they think it will make them go faster. NO! you make yourself go faster. The shoes may just help you with running economy but the power comes from you.

I do agree I find it weird to find just-getting started hobby joggers kitted to the max. And I will admit I think it's a waste of money and it's a pet-peeve of mine. First run, figure our what makes you feel good, what you think you'll need when running and then get it! I find it ridiculous to see people who are hitting 30-35min in a 5km fun run and have a upper weekly mileage of 12km with 5%, compression socks and a camelback. Like do you even know why some runners wear compression socks? Do you really need to carry a liter of water with you? For me I don't know if I am as irritated by the money wasted, or simply that the person hasn't spent five minutes trying to figure themselves out, what they want, and how running feels. its like they run because the gear.

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Have you never been cycling? wrote:
Highly affluent? Maybe more than the general population, but have you ever been cycling. $250 shoes are nothing. I just spent that on an low-middish pair of cycling shoes. I need a new road bike, but I’m resisting, because I can’t imagine dropping less than $3500.

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Agreed on cycling front...far easier to blow huge wads of money on marginal gains than running. My 250 vaporflys are the top, while bikes can go up to 10k+ to save a freaking pound on weight. It’s called take a big crap and save the bike weight.

I am guilty on both sports, but biking is a rabbit hole where I’ve learned my lesson that more money doesn’t mean much gains. Whereas the vaporflys help me from getting beat up and I can till go to work and not walk like a hill Billie.

Running is cheap and once you get all he gear, it’s just regular shoe purchases. Bikes you gotta replace crap, tune it’s clean it, grease it, yadda daaa

4% off a 10 minute mile is twice as much as 4% off a 5 minute mile.

I think anyone wearing the Vaporflys is funny. It’s something we are going to look back on and laugh. They are incredibly silly looking and the hype around them is really a blemish on the dignity of the sport.

The guys at the front are putting up some amazing times and they would look great in bunny slippers if that’s the fashion. It just becomes more apparent how silly the whole thing is when you see them on slower runners.

They are big, ugly, brightly coloured clown shoes which are supposed to make you run faster using special foam and hidden springs. That is very funny.

Not saying I wouldn’t wear them. It’s fun to dress up like a pro and play runner. It’s theatre, and the elites really enjoy it too.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying the time in which you live, but you are also not wrong to be amused by it.

Here's another quick thought:

Aren't the hobbyjoggers the ones that would benefit the most from buying these shoes, as they will likely see greater gains than an elite runner would (in terms of seconds/minutes saved and improved running economy that elites already possess)? Besides, when did it hurt to have a bunch of people helping you by giving their own money to a company that develops the gear that makes you faster?

my coworker bought 3 pairs after hearing they cost 250 simply bc they cost 250 lmao. He wears them on our casual fridays and tells people how LIGHT and CUSHIONED they are (and that they cost 250 before tax of course). Pretty funny if you ask me.

Saw lots of folks who may or may not have been fast wearing them at the boston expo walking around

You all be so interesting.

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runnER/DR wrote:

I bet he gets annoyed at anyone that can't run sub 2:10 wearing the 4%.

Anyway fact is that running is a highly affluent hobby. Its just as affluent as golf and tennis. A lot of hobby joggers are doctors and dentists and lawyers who have plenty of extra money to spend on expensive shoes. They love running but don't have time to run 120 a week. But they challenge themselves on race day and expect the best out of themselves.

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Mr Dressup wrote:

I think anyone wearing the Vaporflys is funny. It’s something we are going to look back on and laugh. They are incredibly silly looking and the hype around them is really a blemish on the dignity of the sport.

The guys at the front are putting up some amazing times and they would look great in bunny slippers if that’s the fashion. It just becomes more apparent how silly the whole thing is when you see them on slower runners.

They are big, ugly, brightly coloured clown shoes which are supposed to make you run faster using special foam and hidden springs. That is very funny.

Not saying I wouldn’t wear them. It’s fun to dress up like a pro and play runner. It’s theatre, and the elites really enjoy it too.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying the time in which you live, but you are also not wrong to be amused by it.

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Usually do my warm up jog at a 5 minute kilometer pace, with 4% at the same effort did my warm up jog at a 4:20-430 kilometer pace.

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Usually do my warm up jog at a 5 minute kilometer pace, wrote:

Usually do my warm up jog at a 5 minute kilometer pace, with 4% at the same effort did my warm up jog at a 4:20-430 kilometer pace.

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I said what the hell and paid up for a pair. I think they are fantastic. I ran a half marathon and marathon in them recently and they make a difference. While I didn't feel faster, I did notice my legs felt freshe,r longer in the shoes. The cushioning is outstanding. I used my orthotics in them and had no issues with it. My marathon was a 3:08, my best in 2.5 years when I ran a 3:10 in Skechers Go Run Rides. They are expensive as hell but I am a fan of them. I am slow by letsrun message board standards (I am 47 years old hobbyjogger) but I definitely felt the shoe were worth the investment.

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Curious II wrote:

I said what the hell and paid up for a pair. I think they are fantastic. I ran a half marathon and marathon in them recently and they make a difference. While I didn't feel faster, I did notice my legs felt freshe,r longer in the shoes. The cushioning is outstanding. I used my orthotics in them and had no issues with it. My marathon was a 3:08, my best in 2.5 years when I ran a 3:10 in Skechers Go Run Rides. They are expensive as hell but I am a fan of them. I am slow by letsrun message board standards (I am 47 years old hobbyjogger) but I definitely felt the shoe were worth the investment.

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uh asking for a friend wrote:

Quick thought
Am I the only person who gets irritated when I see like hobby jogger people wearing vaporflys? Matter of fact slow people who are kited out to the max? I feel like they're just getting wasted on a talentless person. It sounds mean but whatever lol
Anyone else have opinions on this?

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