Kenyan doper Asbel Kiprop (1500m), banned for 4 years by AIU due to convincingly made out case, can still appeal to CAS

Coevett wrote:

Hi Casual Observer!

That's a good one of yours - doping was as rife in the UK and West Germany as East Germany and the Soviet Union.

Nobody said that, try a logic for beginner course for a change.

Cheers,

your Casual Observer aka Rekrunner

Hi rekrunner! wrote:

Why do you as American have such a weird UK fetish?

Anyway, as you know, doping during the 70s and 80s was rife in West Germany, US, France etc. Why would the UK be any different?

You conclude that the Ethiopians dope en masse because the Kenyans do, so be a bit consequence for a change.

There is no evidence that doping was rife in the UK in middle-distance running in the 70's and 80's. The UK is a separate country from West/Germany, which was directly involved in an ideological war with its divided other half. The fact that West Germany, despite having 3 x the population of the GDR, couldn't touch their neighbours on the track, suggests doping wasn't rife there either. I assume there is a doping problem in Ethiopia because the conditions which are causing endemic and proven doping in Kenya are present there too. Then again, I did read just today that doping is actually punished by a 3 year prison sentence there, so you never know - maybe that is the reason for the lack of doping positives. It would be rather funny, actually, if Ethiopians turned out to be the 'natural born runners', Bekele was the greatest clean runner in history, but that Kenyans can't break 3:35 or 13:15 without peds.

Kiprop becomes the latest Kenyan to be banned for an anti-doping violation amid a swathe of doping offences involving competitors from the African nation.

Not all of them have been banned by AIU though.

Testing has only recently become common in Kenya even introducing whereabouts system.

This still hasn't happened in Ethiopia

I remember when Geb announced this and some poor kid was led off to jail. Was a nasty little bit of propaganda from a nasty little man.

Sounds like they're tough on doping, but still very little testing is happening.

+1 Now that is the most clever thing you have ever posted.

And pigs can fly.

In 1970's & 1980's, FRG had one 1500m star, Dr. Thomas Wessinghage; GDR had one 1500m star, Jurgen Straub. One clean and one not clean? Were both clean? Were both PED users? Who knows.

Well said. Also, both the German and British men are by and large worse now than in the last century, except for the Somalian-born Mo, training in the US and Kenya and Ethiopia under Salazar and well, you know. Probably a coincidence.

Notice the Asbel Kiprop news is being treated like a new bust for at least the fourth time now?

Lawsuit? In which country and who would have any type of jurisdiction or authority? That’s laughable.

And even if he filed and won in NZ how on earth could he collect or have anything enforced in Kenya?

What are you talking about?

El Keniano wrote:

Asbel Kiprop’s legacy now reduced to Kenya’s biggest cautionary tale that will forever be used to warn other athletes of the perils of doping. He’s our Lance Armstrong or Ben Johnson.

This is normal in Kenya . Doping is common with all Kenyan runners , young, old ,male and females. Also , the females with internal penis , that took gold away from Melissa Bishop of Canada.

The next step is for IAAF to Ban the entire country of Kenya, and for the West to stop sending aid money , because the corrupt Kenyan politicians just steal anyways.

El Ken do drugs is just upset he didn’t get to taste the tainted sample.

bazap wrote:

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/amp/article/2001321856/iaaf-bans-asbel-kiprop-for-four-years

All of the top E. Africans should be banned until they can be drug tested at the same level as Americans, Europeans, Japanese, etc.. It won't stop cheats but it will KO 95% of them. It'll help restore interest in events over 1500m for sure. Also at the top of the list should be the handling of age cheats. Do the same as soccer has done and watch what happens in junior events. The lefty crybabies will cry racism of course.

Bob Lawblah wrote:

Lawsuit? In which country and who would have any type of jurisdiction or authority? That’s laughable.

And even if he filed and won in NZ how on earth could he collect or have anything enforced in Kenya?

What are you talking about?

A lawsuit would be difficult, but at the very least the IAAF should strip Kiprop "doper" of the Olympic gold medal and award it to Willis, the rightful owner. In addition, Bett "doper" should have the WC bronze stripped and award it to Langford, the rightful owner.

But it's a sure Bett that none of this will ever happen as the Kenyan cheaters keep prospering from their doping like bandits!

El Keniano wrote:

Notice the Asbel Kiprop news is being treated like a new bust for at least the fourth time now?

Well...what do you expect since you were one saying the evidence was flimsy and Kiprop would win his appeal. Lol.

El Keniano wrote:

Too good to be true wrote:

Very polite send off.

Given the rage and constant West conspiracies you display and spew; no El K you can’t be mildly philosophical on this.

Kiprop and the many others (Kenyan and other dopers in our sport), need to have very harsh words spoken about them.

No one is supporting him. But wait, you think it’s normal that ZERO dopers have been caught from pharma-dependent West?

All you do is toss out lies and march off pretending that they're facts, including your remarks about the AIU. People are caught all the time everywhere else. Stick with the facts you fake Kenyan. Kenyans and Ethiopians are RARELY tested out of season, out of competition. When they are they pay off the local officials / testers as Kiprop himself basically admitted when he pinned himself in a corner. No doubt the same for literally all other E. Africans at the top.

Face it. Most of E. Africa is pharmacy dependent when it comes to times under 1:45, 3:33, 13:05 etc. Lots of talented people, but the bell curve is very narrow in comparison with everyone else. And you know it, you fraud. Go back to your parent's basement in Great Neck. For now you can enjoy watching the behind the scenes political protection a lot of third world athletes receive. It won't last forever, but it isn't going to go away anytime soon either.

at least he has his police job to fall back on.

its an unfair cop wrote:

at least he has his police job to fall back on.

He can go back to shaking down hard working business owners for "protection" money/