World rankings- top 10 marathon runners

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Mate. you are going to love this: just received by e-mail from the horses mouth; the consensus top 10 marathon rankings that AW will publish pre-Christmas. done by an expert panel. Couple of surprises: Mengistu at 7, molla at 8, no room for Kitata or Lemma. Women's: Jemeli at 6 [above Bekere], Burka at 9 [what?], and azmera abreha at 10. No keitany or jepkosgei [hello, new york is a Major!]

Don’t know how they get jemeli above Bekere. Maybe stunned like me at how fast jemeli was going after halfway. But she did slow.

Jemeli proved in not finishing Tokyo that she is not top ten

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Statman, do you happen to know any of the top women planning to compete in the World 1/2 champs next month?

Someone would think now that with all the majors all crowded in, that anyone like Yeshaneh would only do the world half v Fancy, Melly, Peres, Caroline, and Hassan. Will Gidey stick to 10 and 15k?

Aussiestatman wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

This is my updated women’s top-10:

1. Brigid Kosgei

2. Ruth Chepng’etich

3. Worknesh Degefa

4. Ashete Bekere

5. Roza Dereje

6. Joyciline Jepkosgei

7. Lonah Salpeter

8. Vivian Cheruiyot

9. Birhane Dibaba

10. Mary Keitany

You might notice I cooled off a bit on Jepkosgei, partly because I thought better of ranking her 3rd based on one pretty awesome performance, and partly because her 1/2 marathon WR has been smashed. Speaking of which, Ababel Yeshaneh seems primed to run historically fast and make this list.

I agree except flipping 4 and 5, 7 and 8.

I have been working on an updated list for both men and women, maybe even out to 30ish, in a thread about the fall road running season. Up to about 15 at the moment.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

For me, right now, before London, I rank it this way:

Kipchoge

Kitata

Cherono

Leule Gebrselassie

Desisa

Farah

Geremew

Kipkemoi

Kipserem

Tola

With that, I think Leule, Farah, and Geremew are competing Sunday for 3rd to 5th. Then Tola, Wasihun, Kipsang, and Kiptum are up for 6th to 9th. Depending on those results, any of them could move up or down by next week.

So wasihun comes in for tola, but how far? It’s all about the second best run they have done in the last 16 months.

Looking back at this conversation with the current crop in form and not many changes:

A likely looking ten now before New York or Valencia alter it could be:

Kipchoge

L.Cherono

Lemma

Bekele

Geremew

Chebet

V.Kipchumba

Legese

Tola

A.Kipruto

That still leaves Ekiru, Desisa, Kitata, Kipyego, Leul G., B.Kipruto and Adola out.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Looking back at this conversation with the current crop in form and not many changes:

A likely looking ten now before New York or Valencia alter it could be:

Kipchoge

L.Cherono

Lemma

Bekele

Geremew

Chebet

V.Kipchumba

Legese

Tola

A.Kipruto

That still leaves Ekiru, Desisa, Kitata, Kipyego, Leul G., B.Kipruto and Adola out.

Oh, man—my list would be pretty radically different, I figure. I would put B. Kipruto, Adola and Ekiru ahead of Bekele, for one. I would also have to give some credit to the Olympic silver and bronze medalists, Abdi Nageeye and Bashir Abdi.

With his London victory making it 3-straight podiums at WMMs, Sisay Lemma has become the fairly obvious choice for the World #2 at the moment, and in fact he’s ranked #2 according to the World Athletics ranking system.

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Sisay Lemma

3. Vincent Kipchumba

4. Mosinet Geremew

5. Lawrence Cherono

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Evans Chebet

8. Titus Ekiru

9. Benson Kipruto

10. Bashir Abdi

Honorable Mention: Abdi Nageeye, Tamirat Tola, Seifu Tura, Guye Adola, Kenenisa Bekele, Reuben Kipyego, Elisha Rotich

John Wesley Harding wrote:

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Sisay Lemma

3. Vincent Kipchumba

4. Mosinet Geremew

5. Lawrence Cherono

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Evans Chebet

8. Titus Ekiru

9. Benson Kipruto

10. Bashir Abdi

Honorable Mention: Abdi Nageeye, Tamirat Tola, Seifu Tura, Guye Adola, Kenenisa Bekele, Reuben Kipyego, Elisha Rotich

Sorry, nobody is allowed Rotich before Evans Chebet. This for me is a rolling one or two year thing, not just this year so far.

Aussiestatman wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Sisay Lemma

3. Vincent Kipchumba

4. Mosinet Geremew

5. Lawrence Cherono

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Evans Chebet

8. Titus Ekiru

9. Benson Kipruto

10. Bashir Abdi

Honorable Mention: Abdi Nageeye, Tamirat Tola, Seifu Tura, Guye Adola, Kenenisa Bekele, Reuben Kipyego, Elisha Rotich

Sorry, nobody is allowed Rotich before Evans Chebet. This for me is a rolling one or two year thing, not just this year so far.

oops, sorry. didn't read your ten well

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Looking back at this conversation with the current crop in form and not many changes:

A likely looking ten now before New York or Valencia alter it could be:

Kipchoge

L.Cherono

Lemma

Bekele

Geremew

Chebet

V.Kipchumba

Legese

Tola

A.Kipruto

That still leaves Ekiru, Desisa, Kitata, Kipyego, Leul G., B.Kipruto and Adola out.

Oh, man—my list would be pretty radically different, I figure. I would put B. Kipruto, Adola and Ekiru ahead of Bekele, for one. I would also have to give some credit to the Olympic silver and bronze medalists, Abdi Nageeye and Bashir Abdi.

With his London victory making it 3-straight podiums at WMMs, Sisay Lemma has become the fairly obvious choice for the World #2 at the moment, and in fact he’s ranked #2 according to the World Athletics ranking system.

You were proven right by Bashir

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

I agree except flipping 4 and 5, 7 and 8.

I have been working on an updated list for both men and women, maybe even out to 30ish, in a thread about the fall road running season. Up to about 15 at the moment.

What does the top ten women's list look like now? Peres, Kosgei, Joyciline, Ruth, Tanui, Bekere, Dereje. Then who?

John Wesley Harding wrote:

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Sisay Lemma

3. Vincent Kipchumba

4. Mosinet Geremew

5. Lawrence Cherono

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Evans Chebet

8. Titus Ekiru

9. Benson Kipruto

10. Bashir Abdi

Honorable Mention: Abdi Nageeye, Tamirat Tola, Seifu Tura, Guye Adola, Kenenisa Bekele, Reuben Kipyego, Elisha Rotich

Does a podium in New York resurrect Bekele?

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

I have been working on an updated list for both men and women, maybe even out to 30ish, in a thread about the fall road running season. Up to about 15 at the moment.

What does the top ten women's list look like now? Peres, Kosgei, Joyciline, Ruth, Tanui, Bekere, Dereje. Then who?

Azimeraw and Salpeter. If the winner of Valencia this year goes quicker than Hiwot did in Milan, do they rank next?

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

What does the top ten women's list look like now? Peres, Kosgei, Joyciline, Ruth, Tanui, Bekere, Dereje. Then who?

Azimeraw and Salpeter. If the winner of Valencia this year goes quicker than Hiwot did in Milan, do they rank next?

Sara Hall still in the mix?

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Azimeraw and Salpeter. If the winner of Valencia this year goes quicker than Hiwot did in Milan, do they rank next?

Sara Hall still in the mix?

Or if Molly can finish second does she usurp Hall?

John Wesley Harding wrote:

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Sisay Lemma

3. Vincent Kipchumba

4. Mosinet Geremew

5. Lawrence Cherono

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Evans Chebet

8. Titus Ekiru

9. Benson Kipruto

10. Bashir Abdi

Honorable Mention: Abdi Nageeye, Tamirat Tola, Seifu Tura, Guye Adola, Kenenisa Bekele, Reuben Kipyego, Elisha Rotich

Albert Korir in the list of HM's now? What about the 2nd and 3rd in NY?

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Looking back at this conversation with the current crop in form and not many changes:

A likely looking ten now before New York or Valencia alter it could be:

Kipchoge

L.Cherono

Lemma

Bekele

Geremew

Chebet

V.Kipchumba

Legese

Tola

A.Kipruto

That still leaves Ekiru, Desisa, Kitata, Kipyego, Leul G., B.Kipruto and Adola out.

Oh, man—my list would be pretty radically different, I figure. I would put B. Kipruto, Adola and Ekiru ahead of Bekele, for one. I would also have to give some credit to the Olympic silver and bronze medalists, Abdi Nageeye and Bashir Abdi.

With his London victory making it 3-straight podiums at WMMs, Sisay Lemma has become the fairly obvious choice for the World #2 at the moment, and in fact he’s ranked #2 according to the World Athletics ranking system.

Agree with Lemma at 2, even if cherono wins Valencia in another sub 2.04

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

What does the top ten women's list look like now? Peres, Kosgei, Joyciline, Ruth, Tanui, Bekere, Dereje. Then who?

Azimeraw and Salpeter. If the winner of Valencia this year goes quicker than Hiwot did in Milan, do they rank next?

I have that Valencia winner as one of these 3: Azmera Gebru, Gutemi Shone, or Nancy Jelagat. Don’t think they will be much under 2.20

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

What does the top ten women's list look like now? Peres, Kosgei, Joyciline, Ruth, Tanui, Bekere, Dereje. Then who?

Azimeraw and Salpeter. If the winner of Valencia this year goes quicker than Hiwot did in Milan, do they rank next?

year end top ten a no brainer now. clear cut, just the order can be a matter of opinion. add hiwot to these 9

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Azimeraw and Salpeter. If the winner of Valencia this year goes quicker than Hiwot did in Milan, do they rank next?

year end top ten a no brainer now. clear cut, just the order can be a matter of opinion. add hiwot to these 9

Looking at the next ten:

Molly

Zeinaba

Winners of Abu Dhabi and Berlin

Jemeli

Who else?