Chris Derrick is OUT of London Marathon

Jerry athlete injured? Color me surprised.

Unsurprising. He hasn't raced all year other than jogging the trials preview course thing, so I assumed he was not healthy

Weak.

Americans should be doing Boston anyway. Why run London.... to finish behind 30 doping African "teens"?? Hard pass.

wejo wrote:

There may be just a handful of men with the Olympic qualifying standard prior to the 2020 Olympic Trials and Ben Rosario said he thought the Trials race would be won in 2:13. So that means that likely the only American who might be capable of running sub 2:11:30 on the difficult course is Galen Rupp.

Making it more imperative that USATF change it's Olympic qualifying procedures and go off World rankings at the least and try and get a waiver form IAAF to be able to pick the top 3.

You guys really don't get this do you?

Beelzebub wrote:

wejo wrote:

There may be just a handful of men with the Olympic qualifying standard prior to the 2020 Olympic Trials and Ben Rosario said he thought the Trials race would be won in 2:13. So that means that likely the only American who might be capable of running sub 2:11:30 on the difficult course is Galen Rupp.

Making it more imperative that USATF change it's Olympic qualifying procedures and go off World rankings at the least and try and get a waiver form IAAF to be able to pick the top 3.

You guys really don't get this do you?

What are you talking about?

Damn it Chris.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/ae491e0f9703b89510177adc1c84c84a/tenor.gif?itemid=4032692

1. Been a brutal month for Schumacher. Women run horiffic at World xc. Cragg runs horrific at half in Europe. Now this.

elaborate please wrote:

Beelzebub wrote:

You guys really don't get this do you?

What are you talking about?

2. He's talking about this:

rojo wrote:

elaborate please wrote:

What are you talking about?

2. He's talking about this:

I get that he's talking about the trials/qualifying system but I don't get what Beelzebub is specifically talking about.

Any other Americans running London?

Huddle. Sisson. Guys--I don't know.

When do you blame the athlete and when do you blame the coach?

I would think a coach like Jerry who obsessively limits racing would have some control over training volume and intensity. Does Chris run more than he is directed? Does he run faster than he is supposed to?

peekay wrote:

When do you blame the athlete and when do you blame the coach?

I would think a coach like Jerry who obsessively limits racing would have some control over training volume and intensity. Does Chris run more than he is directed? Does he run faster than he is supposed to?

Yea feels a little off to throw that on Jerry's bad couple of months. Also a bit of a weak take when that group has been so successful, had a decent fall, and we're about to hit the spring track season.

Was listening to an NBA player podcast & they were talking about how much they feel for guys when they get hurt even if they don't like the guy. I can't say I'm surprised by some of the comments on here but I'm always rooting for people to be healthy and to make it to start lines. That should be the norm.

rojo wrote:

1. Been a brutal month for Schumacher.

Women run horiffic at World xc. Cragg runs horrific at half in Europe. Now this.

elaborate please wrote:

What are you talking about?

2. He's talking about this:

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/03/did-the-iaaf-just-kill-off-some-of-the-significance-of-the-olympic-trials-iaaf-announces-new-qualifying-system-entry-standards-for-2020-olympics/

It is irritating that you guys keep pushing the lie that only people with the time standard will be sent by USATF. Just because of that one email from a lady who didn't even know what you were talking about when you emailed her...

another runner wrote:

It is irritating that you guys keep pushing the lie that only people with the time standard will be sent by USATF. Just because of that one email from a lady who didn't even know what you were talking about when you emailed her...

Until USATF clarifies their statement they're right to assume it's true.

Maybe USATF ought to consider an alternate oly trials course (I.e. less difficult) to allow athletes a reasonable chance to achieve the standard at the trials.

Phantasy Star wrote:

Weak.

Americans should be doing Boston anyway. Why run London.... to finish behind 30 doping African "teens"?? Hard pass.

Age - whether 15, 25 or 55 - doesn’t matter once you’re on the professional level.

American marathoners are relegated to second- or third-tier status. It was great that 2 finished under 2:10 but is that the best we have to offer? Now that Hall and Ritz are retired or soon-to-retire are we never going to see another American break 2:08? Is 2:09:xx the best we can hope for? Sad. But, I think American bodies are not built to go 2:04. Only the East Africans have the build to go that fast. Just my two cents.

wejo wrote:

He has had a plantar problem that he got after pushing too hard in his training as it was going too well.

Full explanation from Chris in Insagram Post below

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwU3_7XBJKZ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=17abbfukn1a99

There may be just a handful of men with the Olympic qualifying standard prior to the 2020 Olympic Trials and Ben Rosario said he thought the Trials race would be won in 2:13. So that means that likely the only American who might be capable of running sub 2:11:30 on the difficult course is Galen Rupp.

Making it more imperative that USATF change it's Olympic qualifying procedures and go off World rankings at the least and try and get a waiver form IAAF to be able to pick the top 3.

He looks so scrawny in the picture. Has he ever lifted a weight in his life? His arms are like twigs.

another runner wrote:

It is irritating that you guys keep pushing the lie that only people with the time standard will be sent by USATF. Just because of that one email from a lady who didn't even know what you were talking about when you emailed her...

Well that's basically what USATF's position is as of right now, it's not really a lie. There's no guarantee that anyone's going to make a descending order list. All we know as of right now is that USATF is trying to make the trials a labeled race so that top 5 auto have the standard (even though only top 3 matter) and even this is essentially a loophole to any already confusing and generally unsupported system.