60 mpw proof? wrote:
Where did you get the 60 mpw figure? Not in the story...?
I asked him.
60 mpw proof? wrote:
Where did you get the 60 mpw figure? Not in the story...?
I asked him.
Dr Taboo wrote:
60 mpw proof? wrote:
Where did you get the 60 mpw figure? Not in the story...?
I asked him.
That seems like quite a lot.
Does that include warmup miles?
pre841 wrote:
Dr Taboo wrote:
I asked him.
That seems like quite a lot.
Does that include warmup miles?
Peter Coe?
Dr Taboo wrote:
60 mpw proof? wrote:
Where did you get the 60 mpw figure? Not in the story...?
I asked him.
yeah sure
Her parents have done her a major disservice by pushing her and enabling her to train far too much at a young age. People, she is ten. She put up amazing times when she was nine. Nine!
That’s child abuse.
As so often is done... she will be the next prodigy and then all of a sudden will battle continual injury.
What a shame.
When will they ever learn wrote:
Her parents have done her a major disservice by pushing her and enabling her to train far too much at a young age. People, she is ten. She put up amazing times when she was nine. Nine!
That’s child abuse.
As so often is done... she will be the next prodigy and then all of a sudden will battle continual injury.
What a shame.
Totally agree - we've been down this path so many times before - and not just physical injuries, they'll also be screwed up mentally once they get into the real world.
Phantasy Star wrote:
Moo Goo wrote:
But African kids run all the time. Everyday.
Yes, because we have plenty of age-verified clean 10-year-old African performances to compare this too. lol.
But yeah, this girl is toast by 14. Forget college, she won't have any high school credentials.
In regard to training before HS, 0 mpw is plenty.
Dr Taboo wrote:
She'll have stress fractures by age 11 and washed up by 13.
Father has her at 60 MPW already at age 10 and hitting the gym hard.
This is even worse than usual because most pre-burnout girls are only doing shorter distances, this one is running longer distances and on pavement.
This is Carrie Garritson 2.0
https://mailtribune.com/photos/gallery/pear-blossom-10-mile-run-04-13-2019#photo-9
You beat me to it. Father coaching her, prodigy at 10. There are hobby joggers talking about her being a future Olympic Gold medalist. Imagine how much she'll improve!!!!
Let's wait two years.
runn wrote:
Dr Taboo wrote:
She'll have stress fractures by age 11 and washed up by 13.
Father has her at 60 MPW already at age 10 and hitting the gym hard.
This is even worse than usual because most pre-burnout girls are only doing shorter distances, this one is running longer distances and on pavement.
This is Carrie Garritson 2.0
https://mailtribune.com/photos/gallery/pear-blossom-10-mile-run-04-13-2019#photo-9You beat me to it. Father coaching her, prodigy at 10. There are hobby joggers talking about her being a future Olympic Gold medalist. Imagine how much she'll improve!!!!
Let's wait two years.
From the picture it looks like Dad endorses/sponsored by Extract Labs based on his shirt. This doesn't cast any clouds.
https://www.extractlabs.com/Yawn - not again.
I will pay attention in 5 years.
Early adolescent female prodigy, coached by dad, where have I heard this story before?
It is true, ridiculously fast little kids don't typically become world-class adult runners.
On the other hand, neither will these fast kid's classmates.
Despite what gets posted on this board, there is no cause/effect relationship.
The responses can be tiring because they are predictable and miss the point. It isn't because this kid is fast now that she will fail to follow some absurd trajectory. It is because*, after puberty, she is in the same pool as all the other girls. Becoming a national class runner is hard, and extremely unlikely. After heaping expectations on her, that realization will be demoralizing.
*her risk of burnout and overuse injuries actually make her even less likely than her classmates
If her Dad/coach happens to read this, here is some unsolicited advice:
-No more road races
-Play two sports. Even if she is terrible at the other sport.
-Cap practice at 3-4 miles. 4 days per week. Never more than 20 miles per week (in season).
-Even if the focus is distance, have her run some 200's and 400's. Leg speed matters, and can be easily improved as a 10 year old.
-Drills! Learn to run fast and efficient. Jump rope. Best drill ever.
-Most importantly, give her a chance to love running. Be a fan. Make practice fun. Surround her with friends- do relays. Let her enjoy the success of being young and talented, but remove pressure.
Who knows, in 5 (10) years maybe we will be paying attention.
Lather, rinse, repeat...
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-09-22-sp-4283-story.html
Dr Taboo wrote:
Lather, rinse, repeat...
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-09-22-sp-4283-story.html
I totally had forgotten this cautionary tale of Carrie Garritson
The girl looks exactly 10. That's what 10 year old girls look like.
It's not child abuse. The parents don't know what they are doing, but it's not child abuse unless they are forcing her to do this.
She isn't guaranteed to fail in high school like most of you are saying, but the odds are against her.
There are so many girl runners who do really well in middle school who don't improve or get worse in high school. Puberty does a number on a lot of girls in high school. When you add in a lot of training before age 10, that adds an extra thing that makes this a story with a likely bad ending.
Let's also stop using the word "prodigy" to describe her. Generally, a "prodigy" refers to a child that has a natural gift, such as one who sits at a piano for the first time and can play Mozart by ear. Or a child that is gifted at chess naturally. Notice I said "generally," not always. Virtually anyone, with a little knowledge about training, can train their child to be an amazing runner, especially pre-pubescent girls. This is nothing new or exceptional. If the child will do the training and run the miles, they will be fast.
Is your 10 year old this ripped?
Click on this link and look at this picture, it's different than the thumbnail.
https://mailtribune.com/photos/gallery/pear-blossom-10-mile-run-04-13-2019#photo-9
That's not natural talent, that's ours and hours of training!
Have a 12 year old who I see 1-2 times per week and she has run 18:30 for 5k. Why is a 10 year old racing 10 miles?
Because she isn't working with a informed coach.
Saw Grace Ping at World xc. Seems being good so young didn't translate to junior success.