Athletes wrote:
Null hypothesis wrote:
running talent = skinniness
Error.
Marathon talent = skinniness
David Rudisha doesnt run the marathon
David Rudisha is the most talented runner in the world
Were you under the impression that jogging for two plus hours is a measure of human running talent??
Yeah. Running a tad over 2 hours for 26.2 is the GOLD standard. Looking forward to watching Eliud race on the 28th. Guess his height and weight.
Eliud Kipchoge
Height 5 ft 5 in
Weight 123 lb
34 years old
Skinnyprguy wrote:
I’d say 130 at 6ft would be marathon lean. I think Galen is a about that weight.
I don’t buy the argument you lose power or get sick. Plenty of slow chubby people get hurt and sick. I’m not saying it would be fun or enjoyable to get that lean, but don’t argue with physics. For every thick person that has run fast there are 50 lean people who run faster. If you look at Moen and the Robertson’s they are crazy lean for white dudes. They had to suffer to get that skinny. Paula was a rail. Jordan is tiny. Joanne B is tiny. Meb is tiny. Kipchoge is a skeleton.
If you look at the front guys and gals today at Boston the ones near the front were tiny, and if the pace had been 3-4 minutes faster it would have been even more selective. I don’t think your going to see a human run 2:04 in the marathon who weighs 140-150. The person who breaks 2 hours will be closer to 100pds than 150.
Fauble and Ward both looked big compared to most of the front guys, except Desisa who also looks big.
What are the height/weight stats for both those guys ?
Aside, Fauble and Ward both ran great, 2.09..., but doubtful they will ever sniff lower than 2.08, but if wrong on that, sorry...
Ghost in China
Marathon Runner wrote:
Okay so i have a friend who is 5'9" and about 145. The other day he tells me he plans on running a marathon in the future. He goes on to say that he weighs around what a pro marathon runner would weigh. I laugh at him and tell him that a 5'9" pro marathon runner would weigh anywhere between 115 to 125 pounds. He still does not believe me.
Right it all goes by bodyweight.
Every event on the planet has an ideal bodyweight range.
Bodyweight is the single most important thing when it comes to running.
The next factor is height.
For example.
The average 400 meter dash runner professionally is only 157lbs.
If you're not at the ideal body weight range of 130 to the absolute max of 189 then you will not ever become a professional 400 meter dash sprinter.
It's basically impossible to reach the speed needed of 45.4 or below to become a pro runner if you're not in between those two weights of 130 and 189.
You won't come anywhere near 45.4 at over 189.
Has anyone picked up 10-15 pounds and tried to run a 2:10 marathon lately. Let me know how it feels. I’d challenge that most people can’t break 1 mile at 5 minute pace with 10 extra pounds. I think running 26.2 miles is more a physics problem than a training problem.
Those tiny East African distance runners can run very fast at 1500m too 3.32 or thereabouts before they even start their marathon career. Being tiny is NOT a pre-requisite for 1500m running. They are just much fitter than you.
I think Halie Geb. Once said that someone will break 2hrs in the marathon, but his life before that performance will probably not be one moonbeams and sunshine.
I'm a white american dude, 63 in the half but not a full yet. I'm roughly 5'9" and 137 lbs. If I did the 120 mpw training instead of my typical around 95-100 mpw I'd probably be 135 lbs and probably run like 2:13 for marathon.
Genetic freaks that have great strength (not weak) while being 5'9" and 130 lbs are the 2:06-2:08 types
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon