Short video featuring Eliud.
Short video featuring Eliud.
Thanks for the link. I really enjoyed that.
The short movie "Eluid" proves why Americans don't win. It's not about physicality. It's about philosophy. It's your mental approach. Look at how the Kenyans live and train as opposed to Galen, Shalane or Gwen Jorgenson.
Train like you fight. Fight like you train. wrote:
The short movie "Eluid" proves why Americans don't win. It's not about physicality. It's about philosophy. It's your mental approach. Look at how the Kenyans live and train as opposed to Galen, Shalane or Gwen Jorgenson.
You should have picked three Americans that haven’t won Olympic medals and Major Marathons. Also, what do you know about Galen’s philosophy? He is more of a hermit than Kipchoge. Do you think he and Mo would have had more success if they planted trees together on the Nike campus?
Train like you fight. Fight like you train. wrote:
The short movie "Eluid" proves why Americans don't win. It's not about physicality. It's about philosophy. It's your mental approach. Look at how the Kenyans live and train as opposed to ....
Or the North Americans win once and rest on their laurels, bask in their past success.
Kipchoge: We had great success in 2018, but "Let's us forget 2018".. "We have crossed that". "let us invest all our thoughts, all our minds, lets us convert our minds to 2019".
Versus. We won a race in 2017 or 2018, let's milk it for all it's worth. "If we win another race, this is dessert... I've achieved everything I want." (paraphrased).
Must watch video.
Train like you fight. Fight like you train. wrote:
The short movie "Eluid" proves why Americans don't win. It's not about physicality. It's about philosophy. It's your mental approach. Look at how the Kenyans live and train as opposed to Galen, Shalane or Gwen Jorgenson.
Yes agreed, it’s all in 100% of the time, it’s called being a professional both as a person and as an athlete...
While I can appreciate Eliud's commitment, most of the things he says sound like they should be deep but really mean nothing. Maybe it's language barrier, maybe its just the fact he is that much more physically gifted.
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While I can appreciate Eliud's commitment, most of the things he says sound like they should be deep but really mean nothing. Maybe it's language barrier, maybe its just the fact he is that much more physically gifted.
No, the fact that you can only extract surface level insights out of his statements means that your own philosophy is shallow, and you probably haven't accomplished much yourself.
I haven't accomplished anything in the vicinity of Eliud's but I have had some successes. And his simple statements capture 95% of the secret of success.
I would explain this to you further but that'd be the waste of my time and I don't care about you.
This was really a lovely little film, thank you for sharing.
I think a lot of people who may not like this film either don't care for the "Guru on the Mountaintop" style (see Donald Sutherland in Without Limits) or have their own personal hangups (being has-been(s) or never-was(es). Personally, ELIUD really resonated with me; I've had some small successes here and there but I've never rested on them. Participation Medals go in the box and bibs go in the binder. I honestly couldn't tell you what my PRs are offhand except they're on the slow end of local-class. I couldn't care less about what I've done, only want to improve. And if I have peaked, well then so be it. At the end of the day, it's just running and it really doesn't matter.
That tea with bread thing looks like a good idea. I would make a nutrient-rich bread and maybe add some peanut butter before a long run...I got to get off this black coffee and macrobar thing.
If the football ⚽️ ribbing went over your head, Eliud is a Tottenham supporter (they are exceedingly rare outside of North London and he’s probably the only one at that camp) and they beat fancied Manchester City in the Champions League last Tuesday.
That lunch, piles upon piles of white rice ?, stewed beans ? and chapatis ? is more cabs than Westerners can handle in a few days.
El Keniano wrote:
That lunch, piles upon piles of white rice ?, stewed beans ? and chapatis ? is more cabs than Westerners can handle in a few days.
And once they stop running a hundred plus miles a week, it catches up to them real fast. Have you seen any recent photos of Paul Tergat? Retirement has not done him well.
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El Keniano wrote:
That lunch, piles upon piles of white rice ?, stewed beans ? and chapatis ? is more cabs than Westerners can handle in a few days.
And once they stop running a hundred plus miles a week, it catches up to them real fast. Have you seen any recent photos of Paul Tergat? Retirement has not done him well.
This is true. The problem is that most consider running “work” and stop all together once they retire from active competition.
El Keniano wrote:
Once they stop running wrote:
And once they stop running a hundred plus miles a week, it catches up to them real fast. Have you seen any recent photos of Paul Tergat? Retirement has not done him well.
This is true. The problem is that most consider running “work” and stop all together once they retire from active competition.
Also, I missed that there were potatoes ? added to the already considerable carbs. And it was beef stew ?, not beans.
no question, he is the greatest marathon runner right now and it is his individual way of training. but one should not forget that this is also marketing (the noble simplicity, the genuine, the pure will...).
i know two talented runners who, like many others, persuaded their sponsors to pay a trip to kenya because that is fashionable among western runners. big announcement in the local newspapers with great hopes, departure to kenya, a few weeks there, thousands of photos on facebook, online training diary with monster workouts and poser photos, bread and tea, ugali, diarrhea, mediocre season. a lot of noise about nothing.
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no question, he is the greatest marathon runner right now and it is his individual way of training. but one should not forget that this is also marketing (the noble simplicity, the genuine, the pure will...).
i know two talented runners who, like many others, persuaded their sponsors to pay a trip to kenya because that is fashionable among western runners. big announcement in the local newspapers with great hopes, departure to kenya, a few weeks there, thousands of photos on facebook, online training diary with monster workouts and poser photos, bread and tea, ugali, diarrhea, mediocre season. a lot of noise about nothing.
Maybe I'm dense and this is really clear, but are you talking about the Robertsons?
El Keniano wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
This is true. The problem is that most consider running “work” and stop all together once they retire from active competition.
Also, I missed that there were potatoes ? added to the already considerable carbs. And it was beef stew ?, not beans.
Translation, pretending to be Kenyan is hard.
Train like you fight. Fight like you train. wrote:
The short movie "Eluid" proves why Americans don't win. It's not about physicality. It's about philosophy. It's your mental approach. Look at how the Kenyans live and train as opposed to Galen, Shalane or Gwen Jorgenson.
It's more of a difference in parenting styles and relationship expectations. In the USA, it's simply not socially acceptable for people to spend weeks, or even months, away from their spouses and children like Kipchoge and Farah do unless it's for something like military service. American athletes care more about spending time with their families than living solely to be great marathoners.
Tottenham Hotspur appreciate the the support
https://twitter.com/spursofficial/status/1116750352710348800?s=21
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Train like you fight. Fight like you train. wrote:
The short movie "Eluid" proves why Americans don't win. It's not about physicality. It's about philosophy. It's your mental approach. Look at how the Kenyans live and train as opposed to Galen, Shalane or Gwen Jorgenson.
It's more of a difference in parenting styles and relationship expectations. In the USA, it's simply not socially acceptable for people to spend weeks, or even months, away from their spouses and children like Kipchoge and Farah do unless it's for something like military service. American athletes care more about spending time with their families than living solely to be great marathoners.
His family is just down the road in Eldoret.