All tipping should be done PRE TAX

Don’t eat out

I will take that in consideration, but likely ignore your suggestion.

Tip O’Neal wrote:

It’s absurd to pay workers more because they happen to live in a high sales tax state. Being in a high income tax state is already accounted for in the businesses prices. The effort to serve a hamburger is the same regardless of how the government taxes that particular hamburger.

It’s offensive to call someone cheap for tipping pre-tax and offensive to expect more money for yourself because the government is taking more from the customer.

You're cheap for caring about this

Do you think that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez actually paid taxes on her tip income? Bartenders in New York work on 'shift pay' plus. The plus is tips, and accounts for as much as 90 percent of a bartenders income.

Oh I'd love to see her tax returns.

I round pretty liberally when tipping, so the exact amount of the bill doesn't really matter. Whether I am looking at the pretax price of $47, or the post-tax price of $49.82, I'm probably just going to tip $10.

lost in rounding wrote:

I round pretty liberally when tipping, so the exact amount of the bill doesn't really matter. Whether I am looking at the pretax price of $47, or the post-tax price of $49.82, I'm probably just going to tip $10.

Your sales tax is only 6%? Lucky!

sounds like you should be more concerned about weight gain from the hamburgers verses a few cents

Pre-tax vs. post-tax tipping is a ridiculous problem to have.

All tipping should be frowned upon like it is in Japan.

That's why I don't tip more than 5%.

Fk them for getting salty about my sh*tty tip.

Rupp 7.5 cm Model 1986 wrote:

Pre-tax vs. post-tax tipping is a ridiculous problem to have.

All tipping should be frowned upon like it is in Japan.

I lived in Japan for 6 years. No tips, but the prices are higher and the service is crappy more often than here in the U.S. Tipping is better.

Tip O’Neal wrote:

It’s absurd to pay workers more because they happen to live in a high sales tax state. Being in a high income tax state is already accounted for in the businesses prices. The effort to serve a hamburger is the same regardless of how the government taxes that particular hamburger.

It’s offensive to call someone cheap for tipping pre-tax and offensive to expect more money for yourself because the government is taking more from the customer.

While I agree with you in principle (tipping should be done based on pre-tax price), if you are wealthy by any definition, then you should tip greater than 20% even with the tax considered every time, and if the service was exceptional, much more. If you are concerned about the people in lower tax rate states, then tip them even more when you are there.

If I go out to eat with the Lovely Mrs. Flagpole, and our meal with tax is $60. If I give that person a 20% tip ($12) on that as opposed to one that is 7% lower ($11.16), does that even matter to me? No...a pittance...just doesn't matter to me whatsoever. So, if the service was good, I'll usually drop a $20 on top of that or more. Again...a pittance for us.

I suggest that if it matters to you then one of the following is true:

1) You don't make enough money to warrant going out to dinner.

2) You haven't really put any thought into how little money this is.

3) You are a bitter person and just want to b!tch.

I don't tip based on a percent. I start everyone out with $5 and if you do a good job I up the amount and if you do a bad job I lower it. It is dumb to tip based on how expensive of a meal I buy.

“If you are wealthy by any definition, then you should tip greater than 20% “

Pardon me? Because I spent 8 years in college living on nothing so that I could one day make a decent living I should give it away to someone who decided to smoke pot all day instead? F@ck her. She should learn to type.

Like I said, one of the following is true:

1) You don't make enough money to warrant going out to dinner.

2) You haven't really put any thought into how little money this is.

3) You are a bitter person and just want to b!tch.

It appears that at least #3 is the case, and I suggest #1 is also the case.

That you have decided all servers just smoke pot all day show that you are a bigot. Good going.

After working for tips for a few years I decided to always tip in cash. The server doesn't have to declare it so they keep it all.

Tip well, too.

The restaurants at which I have eaten that also have sales tax and that also offer suggested tip amounts all calculate that tip pre-tax. Are things different where you live and/or dine?

The OP strikes me like Mr Pink. If you tip 20%, it doesn't matter if you include tax.

Democratic Socialist wrote:

Do you think that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez actually paid taxes on her tip income? Bartenders in New York work on 'shift pay' plus. The plus is tips, and accounts for as much as 90 percent of a bartenders income.

Oh I'd love to see her tax returns.

If they show too low of tips in your opinion, what are you going to do, go on a search for the missing tips? If it appears she claimed all of her tips, would that be a good thing in your opinion? Or would that be worse, since only an idiot would claim all of their cash tips?

Anyway, these days, a good percentage of tips are on credit card, so you're forced to claim those. I make a few thousand a year in cash tips, big deal.

Blah, blah, blah, look at me, I'm F**kstick Willy.

While I agree with you in principle (tipping should be done based on pre-tax price), if you are wealthy by any definition, then you should tip greater than 20% even with the tax considered every time, and if the service was exceptional, much more. If you are concerned about the people in lower tax rate states, then tip them even more when you are there.

If I go out to eat with the Lovely Mrs. Flagpole, and our meal with tax is $60. If I give that person a 20% tip ($12) on that as opposed to one that is 7% lower ($11.16), does that even matter to me? No...a pittance...just doesn't matter to me whatsoever. So, if the service was good, I'll usually drop a $20 on top of that or more. Again...a pittance for us.

I suggest that if it matters to you then one of the following is true:

1) You don't make enough money to warrant going out to dinner.

2) You haven't really put any thought into how little money this is.

3) You are a bitter person and just want to b!tch.[/quote]