Boys Class of 2020 - Where do they sign?

Look Ahead wrote:

The real question is...who has the best current FR/SO rosters and incoming 2019 classes?

Will Stanford be okay with the graduation of Grant Fisher?

Will NAU continue XC dominance?

Can Colorado find guys to back Dressel and Klecker?

Is Washington the team of the future?

Wisconsin. Nope.

Portland will keep doing Portland.

BYU is good.

Yup, lots of programs looking to reload. Colorado will have another season with its two studs. Coach is a master at figuring out redshirt/fifth year based on who he thinks the competition will be and of that competition, who will be gone in four. Kids that are pure distance will gravitate to Bolder and the benefit of altitude training.

Grant Fisher leaving Stanford will be a big hit. Next to impossible for a coach to replace a guy like that? Without an Aussie named Morgan pulling off big wins, Fisher would have been in the spotlight as the greatest and most consistent American collegian distance runner since Galen Rupp. Come to think of it, he is and he broke Rupp’s American 3000 m indoor record this year. Great place to go to school but you have to be able to compete in the classroom as well as on the track.

Portland, will continue to look for foreign studs as will Wisconsin and other programs. That talent pool is getting picked over all too well.

Washington is getting a stud from NZ or Australia I think. Along with having a great coach, look to them to get a lot better in the future. Solid school as well.

BYU has a talented stable of runners and will be tough to beat in XC. They also have the unique added benefit of two plus additional years of maturity but their talent pool is somewhat limited to draw from.

NAU is somewhat up in the air. Good coach, altitude, easy school and willingness to bring in foreigners is a strong combination for pure long distance.

Iowa State and Notre Dame will be in the discussion the next few years in XC and on the track.

Go49ers wrote:

You think any are good enough to give Long Beach State a shot?

Go Beach!!!

is this a joke? Long Beach State is a second-tier D1 program at best... they somehow lucked out getting some fast freshmen (the two roosevelt and two great oak kids) this year, but I doubt these guys will improve much more through college

You are right, both solid programs with good momentum right now.

If Notre Dame can develop Jacobs and Kilrea and also Cheeseman and Renfree they could be good but too much up the air to know for sure.

I'm not fully on the Iowa St train yet but they are good. Who did they sign this last year?

Stanford = good incoming freshman class (Hart, Andersen, Oosting)

NAU = good incoming freshman class (Bosley, Gorgas, Easton)

Notre Dame = good incoming freshmen class (Cheeseman, Renfree)

BYU = who do they bring back from mission?

Colorado = ?

Wisconsin = ?

Iowa State = ?

Wake Forest had a really good 5k result from a freshmen at Stanford. NAU had two freshmen run under 14. Stanford has had some solid freshmen results this year.

theycoming wrote:

You are right, both solid programs with good momentum right now.

If Notre Dame can develop Jacobs and Kilrea and also Cheeseman and Renfree they could be good but too much up the air to know for sure.

I'm not fully on the Iowa St train yet but they are good. Who did they sign this last year?

Stanford = good incoming freshman class (Hart, Andersen, Oosting)

NAU = good incoming freshman class (Bosley, Gorgas, Easton)

Notre Dame = good incoming freshmen class (Cheeseman, Renfree)

BYU = who do they bring back from mission?

Colorado = ?

Wisconsin = ?

Iowa State = ?

Wake Forest had a really good 5k result from a freshmen at Stanford. NAU had two freshmen run under 14. Stanford has had some solid freshmen results this year.

Stanford is getting arguably the most stacked recruit class.

To add to your list....

Stanford: Liam Anderson, Ryan Oosting, Devin Hart, Charles Hicks, Matt Rizzo

Oregon: Cole Hocker, Luis Peralta, Tyrese Cooper

Colorado: Austin Vancil, Kashon Harrison

Wisconsin: n/a

Iowa State: Matthew Meinke

BYU: Carson Clinger, Grant Gardner, Luke Grundvig

Iowa State is great at attracting foreign transfers. They have the number 1 returner in the NCAA and only lose 1 guy but add Pollard next year.

Old cowboy wrote:

Shadow Lurker wrote:

You think Stanford pays big money for anyone? lol

Stanford did pay big money for Fisher and McGorty. Those two guys success put Milt in the drivers seat for recruits. Look who Stanford has been getting lately.

Stanford doesn't pay as much athletic money as you think they do. Getting on the team and getting into Stanford is the benefit these recruits have. Most of them get outstanding money based on financial need, leaving only a little bit left of athletic money making for a great overall financial package.

As much as this pains me being a huge CU fan, there is no way that Sprout will go to CU. He is a devout Christian, while Wetmore is the farthest thing from that.

Stanford - Who can they get into school? If they get in they will likely go there (not guaranteed but likely)

Stanford will have Ostberg, Ratcliffe & Parsons leading them for XC next fall (but they lose Ostberg before this class gets here)

Iowa State - Kurgat (3rd 'XC), Jordan (46th 'XC), Johnson (61st 'XC), Greder (84th 'XC), Black (232nd 'XC). These are their returners from last fall. Pollard makes them much better. Kurgat and Jordan only have one year left. Next year or never.

NAU - Beamish, Grijalva, Ferro, Hasty, Quax, Raff - Good luck beating that crew

BYU - Return - Mantz, Shumway, Heslington, McLelland Lose - Linkletter, McMillan, Young - Still going to be tough

Colorado - Return Klecker & Dressel (8th and 9th) - Lose Forsyth - Fendel is looking better, but still need depth and don't have top level recruits

Portland - They find a way

They give out 12.6 scholarships just like everyone else. And most of the athletes who go there are wealthy so they aren’t getting a discount.

Teams with biggest upside in the near future:

NAU

Notre Dame

Stanford

Portland

BYU

Washington

Teams that could with a few more pieces

Colorado

Iowa State

Boise State

Oklahoma St.

Indiana

Teams that need help to remain on top

Wisconsin

Colorado State

Oregon

Arkansas

Syracuse

Look at top recruits; sprout, young, morris, culpepper, allred will likely choose from the top group of teams

SomeoneWhoKnows wrote:

Old cowboy wrote:

Stanford did pay big money for Fisher and McGorty. Those two guys success put Milt in the drivers seat for recruits. Look who Stanford has been getting lately.

Stanford doesn't pay as much athletic money as you think they do. Getting on the team and getting into Stanford is the benefit these recruits have. Most of them get outstanding money based on financial need, leaving only a little bit left of athletic money making for a great overall financial package.

You really think Fisher and McGorty didn’t have full rides? Those two guys success set the stage for Milt to more easily gain many top recruits. A runner like Fisher doesn’t come around very often. I would imagine every program offered him a full ride for the same strategic reason to build the future of their distance program around him.

Watch the machine roll in coming years due to their current depth, lasting impression on young athletes that Fisher and McGorty have had; all the while on the back of solid coaching, incredible learning institution and training environment.

Top Tier 2019 Classes:

Stanford

Liam Andersen (CA) - Stanford

Charles Hicks (FL) - Stanford

Ryan Oosting (MA) - Stanford

Devin Hart (NJ) - Stanford

Matthew Rizzo (NY) - Stanford

NAU

Corey Gorags (MI) - Northern Arizona

Drew Bosley (WI) - Northern Arizona

Caleb Easton (WI) - Northern Arizona

Georgetown

Matthew Payamps (NY) - Georgetown

Parker Stokes (NY) - Georgetown

Shea Weilbaker (NY) - Georgetown

Theo Woods (VA) - Georgetown

Washington

Sam Affolder (VA) - Washington

Daniel Maton (WA) - Washington

Joe Waskom (WA) - Washington

Sam Tanner (NZ) - Washington

2nd Tier 2019 Classes

Colorado

Austin Vancil (CO) - Colorado

Kashon Harrison (NM) - Colorado

Hunter Appleton (LA) - Colorado

Princeton

Camren Fischer (AR) - Princeton

Jack Stanley (NJ) - Princeton

Connor Nisbet (DE) - Princeton

Michigan

Tommy Brady (IL) - Michigan

Thomas Shilgalis (IL) - Michigan

Nick Foster (MI) - Michigan

3rd Tier Classes

Ares Reading (CO) - Furman

Adam Beucler (OH) - Furman

David Ahlmeyer (TN) - Furman

Cole Hocker (IN) - Oregon

Alex Comerford (MI) - Syracuse

Tyler Berg (NY) - Columbia

Acer Iverson (MN) - Harvard

Colin Baker (SC) - Harvard

Cole Bullock (TN) - Mississippi

Cruz Gomez (TX) - Texas

Alex Maier (TX) - Oklahoma State

Vincent Mauri (OH) - Arizona State

Conant Smith (OH) - Arizona State

Rowen Ellenberg (WI) - Wisconsin

David Vannucchi (WI) - Wisconsin

Matthew Meinke (WI) - Iowa State

Unknown:

Portland

Colorado State

Boise State

NC State

Indiana

Arkansas

Notes:

*I believe there is a good Canadian kid who has signed somewhere

*Unsure of international signings outside of Washington's Sam Tanner

*Unsure of who BYU brings back from missions

*Stanford, NAU, Notre Dame, Georgetown & Washington have best classes. Stanford and NAU have best current FR classes (followed by Notre Dame)

*This Junior class is very good

am i the only person who thinks nico young might go pro? his coach seems like the kind who would push this (or maybe would push him going somewhere like nop?)

pro?? wrote:

am i the only person who thinks nico young might go pro? his coach seems like the kind who would push this (or maybe would push him going somewhere like nop?)

He had to draft off of someone for 3100 meters and have the race of his life and still didn't even break 8 for the 3k. A long ways to go before we start bringing up going pro.....

Sadly wrote:

As much as this pains me being a huge CU fan, there is no way that Sprout will go to CU. He is a devout Christian, while Wetmore is the farthest thing from that.

Where do you think he can go where his coach shares his faith?

And plenty of serious Christians have run for Wetmore I believe.

There are about 75 college runners faster than this kid and 60 of them won’t go pro.

The Future wrote:

Okay...this class if ridiculous. Time to talk about where these guys are going to college.

Easton Allred (Utah)

The list goes on...

Where will they go?

Allred might go to Utah but seeing as the University of Utah doesn't have a Men's T&F or XC team I don't think he'll go there. Could go to Utah State but I think someone of his caliber will go elsewhere.

Titus Winders is a jr from TN. Has run 9:01 twice.

He will most likely follow his two older brothers to Southern Indiana despite probably having the ability to go to a better program at a bigger school.