Chances of Mo Farah beating Kipchoge in London?

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Kipsang has a better chance of beating kipchoge because he’s beaten Eliud before and is the most experienced marathon runner in the London field this year. I still think Kipchoge will win. Mo’s only chance is to break 2:04, then he will have a chance but Eliud might come out and run a 2:02 and the argument will be buried by then.

After Tokyo, Kipchoge will have nothing more to prove. He will have won the Olympic marathon twice and set a world record that is far out of reach until the next generation of runners take a stab at it.

FFF wrote:

The funny thing about this is, a race with Kipchoge and Farah is actually only 25 miles. Because if Farah is still there at 25 miles, it's no longer a race involving Kipchoge.

If you are suggesting that Farah would handle Kipchoge over the last 1.2, you better watch this.

dbsquirt please stop posting while intoxicated.

Lagat's 1500m time proves he was capable of more in the mile, but no one talks about Lagat as if he were a 3:43 miler. Contrast that with how people talk about Farah. None of his times indicate he could have run 12:45, but I'm supposed to believe he could have run way faster at all distances but never did because "he only cared about winning." If Farah was capable of much better times, why didn't Salazar put him in fast races like he's done with Rupp and Kejelcha? It doesn't make sense to me.

toosmallofachance wrote:

Kipsang has a better chance of beating kipchoge because he’s beaten Eliud before and is the most experienced marathon runner in the London field this year. I still think Kipchoge will win. Mo’s only chance is to break 2:04, then he will have a chance but Eliud might come out and run a 2:02 and the argument will be buried by then.

After Tokyo, Kipchoge will have nothing more to prove. He will have won the Olympic marathon twice and set a world record that is far out of reach until the next generation of runners take a stab at it.

Kipsang will not finish top 6, I have wasihun before him. His best years were 2015 and 2016 when this site ranked him 6th then 5th

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dead even odds

If Kipchoge goes alone with his own pacers like in Berlin, the game is over from the start. Kicking wise- Kipchoge has a better kick than Farah.

Kimmetto's time is only 78 seconds slower than Kipchoge's "WR." Anyway, ask Bing:

FFFF wrote:

FFF wrote:

The funny thing about this is, a race with Kipchoge and Farah is actually only 25 miles. Because if Farah is still there at 25 miles, it's no longer a race involving Kipchoge.

If you are suggesting that Farah would handle Kipchoge over the last 1.2, you better watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzee0gPqcwE

Kipchoge's last track race?

Farah's last track race?

Mo will likely win, as Kipchoge has done nothing since last year...

However, Kipchoge will be the marathon GOAT until someone else runs faster than 2:00:25 or 2:01:40 in a real race.

Mo is the GOAT of distance track championships (i.e. winning)

We know that the two are squaring off in London soon: So did last year.

Mo looked comfortable in the London half: and didn't run sub 60

The question is, if Mo somehow dusts Kipchoge and runs a 2:02:30, should we just give the GOAT title to Mo?: No, it takes more than just a fluke to earn that title. Besides I don't think Mo can hold almost 4:30 per mile the way Kipchoge does, if he does, I see him melting at 32k.

4 gold medals, 2 marathon majors, 5 world titles: Impressive, yet no world records?

Or will we let our irrational hate of the man blind us?[/quote]: Nope, just being objective. Mo is great, NOT the greatest.

I hesitate to consider Farah the next great marathoner, because he hasn't shown he can run fast times, except in the 1500m (and the 2-mile). In the 1500m, he is around top-10 all time. In the 5000m, he is around top-30. In the 10000m, he is around top-15. Currently in the marathon, he is around top-40. He did well in London last year, not to blow up, and he ran a great race in Chicago, so there is a small chance he can still run faster, but projecting his 5000m and 10000m deficit, 2:05 seems to be about the right limit for Farah. Kipchoge must be getting closer to the end of his career. If Farah beats Kipchoge, it will be because Kipchoge did not run well.

dbsquirtNXC21 wrote:

I don't know why people are so reluctant to think of Mo as the next great marathoner. Like kipchoge, he had great success on the track (dare I say way better) and is making the proper transition to the than. He's gonna be a great.

Kipchoge wins.

Mo runs 6 mins faster than the fastest American does in 2019.

Rule Britannia wrote:

Kipchoge wins.

Mo runs 6 mins faster than the fastest American does in 2019.

I bet Uncle Jama is beaming with pride, not to mention his new coach: Paula Radcliffe's husband. Can't make this stuff up.

So consensus is Farah has a realistic chance of beating Kipchoge even though Kipchoge still starts as slight favourite. Fair enough. /thread

The Kipchoge pacers comment is correct. You either have to go with Kipchoge and his fast pacers from the start, running Kipchoge's pace, or you don't have a chance to win. Once separated, Kipchoge will not be slowing down or coming back.

Kipchoge runs with confidence, and now as the WR holder, in an amazing Berlin performance, I just don't see him losing unless he was sick or injured. He surely will not start the race if he's injured.

Depending on the weather, if good, I see Kipchoge torching the London course. And just like Berlin, he knows the course well. Maybe Farah will run 2:03 something, but that's not going to be enough win.

FFFF wrote:

FFF wrote:

The funny thing about this is, a race with Kipchoge and Farah is actually only 25 miles. Because if Farah is still there at 25 miles, it's no longer a race involving Kipchoge.

If you are suggesting that Farah would handle Kipchoge over the last 1.2, you better watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzee0gPqcwE

It was wise for Kipchoge to peak for that race instead of Mo who peaked for the Olympics, winning double gold, when Kipchoge couldn’t even qualify.

DC Wonk wrote:

The Kipchoge pacers comment is correct. You either have to go with Kipchoge and his fast pacers from the start, running Kipchoge's pace, or you don't have a chance to win. Once separated, Kipchoge will not be slowing down or coming back.

Kipchoge runs with confidence, and now as the WR holder, in an amazing Berlin performance, I just don't see him losing unless he was sick or injured. He surely will not start the race if he's injured.

Depending on the weather, if good, I see Kipchoge torching the London course. And just like Berlin, he knows the course well. Maybe Farah will run 2:03 something, but that's not going to be enough win.

But Kipchoge's reign can't last forever.