I think they should put a large asterisk next to the winners names at last years Boston Marathon. The only real winner was Mother Nature.
Now that it is a year later who do you think was the bigger fraud last year Des or Yuki?
Who's winning time will be beaten by a larger margin this year Des 2:39 or Yuki 2:17?
2018 was 2:17. 2019 will be 2:07.
10 minutes faster for the men
2018 was 2:39. 2019 will be 2:24.
16 minutes difference for women.
Linden’s performance was a bigger fluke.
The crazy thing is they actually all raced in the same conditions last year! You’re worried about the clock too much. Just beat the people that line up next to you.
Deer Rupp and Salazar, racing is about who finishes first. Not about the time.
Your math and logic stink. You should probably go by percentages first of all. 2:07 would be an unusually fast time barring a major tailwind or person who decides to take it out. 2:08 mid-2:11 is more in line with a typical winning time. Your projected winning women's time is more in line, but that's extremely variable and 2:25-2:30 is highly believable. Women run slower and the field of them is less deep so you'd expect a bigger variance as is.
Closer than you think wrote:
2018 was 2:17. 2019 will be 2:07.
10 minutes faster for the men
2018 was 2:39. 2019 will be 2:24.
16 minutes difference for women.
Linden’s performance was a bigger fluke.
Yuki was 2:15 not 2:17 last year. He was 7 minutes off of his PB. Desi was 2:39 and 17 minutes off of her PB.
That speaks for itself.
Duke the Fluke wrote:
I think they should put a large asterisk next to the winners names at last years Boston Marathon. The only real winner was Mother Nature.
Now that it is a year later who do you think was the bigger fraud last year Des or Yuki?
Who's winning time will be beaten by a larger margin this year Des 2:39 or Yuki 2:17?
Did you even race Flukey ?
We should just get rid of all races. Everyone should run time trials on their own in ideal conditions and submit it to a website, like the virtual races that got panned on this forum a few days ago!
Just kidding! We run races for a reason - to win against whomever shows up that day. And Des and Yuki did that, no asterisk necessary.
Could we see a repeat?
If a WMM is won in over 2:12 or 2:30 should it sit out of the WMM series for a couple years?
Asterisk Annie wrote:
If a WMM is won in over 2:12 or 2:30 should it sit out of the WMM series for a couple years?
No. That's a really stupid suggestion.
Asterisk Annie wrote:
Could we see a repeat?
If a WMM is won in over 2:12 or 2:30 should it sit out of the WMM series for a couple years?
Why?
Even Des knows it was a fluke. She reads this board and hates it. Here is a most recent quote.
"I think people will just put me exactly where I was before and chalk [2018] up to the weather,'' she says over lunch at an outdoor patio near campus. "I think that would be short-sighted. If I were looking at a field or a race result, I'd say, 'Wow, she really knows Boston well; she's always been solid on this course.' But I still think people will just chalk it up to a fluke, which is fine.
The field is exceptionally weak this year as John Hancock has paved the way to try to prove that Linden's win wasn't a fluke last year BUT IT WAS.
Linden will finish 5th. Hasay 4th. Sellers 22nd. And Yuki 14th.
Bonnie F wrote:
Even Des knows it was a fluke. She reads this board and hates it. Here is a most recent quote.
"I think people will just put me exactly where I was before and chalk [2018] up to the weather,'' she says over lunch at an outdoor patio near campus. "I think that would be short-sighted. If I were looking at a field or a race result, I'd say, 'Wow, she really knows Boston well; she's always been solid on this course.' But I still think people will just chalk it up to a fluke, which is fine.
I was shocked that Desi acknowledged the fluke factor. She obviously is concerned with what this board thinks or she wouldn't go out of her way to say that "it is fine".
Eh? Des doesn't think it was a fluke, can you even read ? She is just saying other people chalking it up to a fluke is no surprise.
Is OP Rupp or Salazar?
It's fine to sit on a win, but isn't that what's wrong with distance running? I read the article and got this impression. Win a big event and then coast because you've accomplished everything you want?
Rogers had the fire to win multiple times. Yuki wants to win again. Where's the fire?
A repeat win would be amazing. Go for it! Don't coast and milk the one win because you won once. Win another major.
This is for all professionals. Stop reading LetsRun and race Monday!
People are weird here. Yuki and Des destroyed the competition, because the others got it wrong. Every marathon is different. They both were simple more prepared for this type of marathon. That's not a fluke, that's simple strength for those conditions.
10th place was the biggest fluke at Boston 2018. Anticipate a 2:21-2:25 marathon from last year's 10th placer. Not even top 20 this year.
Is same guy that started FI blogging after quitting his 500k per year job in the tech industry? Financial independence blogging?