I agree. The truth is slowly being revealed. To the poster who made a mention of me liking a video of Frank Meza. That video is heartbreaking, in light of what I now know. I had only seen 1 video of Frank until the past year or so. (the diabetes video) The video I apparently liked used to be just a minute or so. Only recently, since this thread started, have I seen the longer 5 or so minute long video. Funny thing, I had assumed Frank was gay until I saw that video. (nothing against gays) I am not gay. I can see me liking that video. I believe seeing that video brought me from my doubts after seeing all the evidene presented on LR. (for a short while) Until seeing Derek's articles, I still had a smidge of doubt. To that poster, It brought the timeline of me being a Frank Meza "fan" into clearer focus. 41 years after a marathon I ran in high school, (I needed to bonk it twice to be convinced) I ran the Seal Beach 10k in 2015. It was probably a year after that I had been introduced to Athlinks, and the ability to compare myself to others. Thus I found out about Frank Meza. It is that simple. I posted this thread (and the 2:53:54 post) believing I was saying to the Frank Meza accusers ...look at this and stop accusing him. It never entered my mind that these accusers were right and I was wrong about Frank. Truth be said, proof that is about Frank not being photographed or seen in a video, is not enough yet for me to go from 99.9% convinced to 100%. Obviously Frank Meza fessing up would do the trick. Lastly, I posted many photos from past races. The bombardment of info is my personal style of investigation. Seems much was revealed, much more than I expected.