Age Grouper wrote:
Age Grouper wrote:
Caveman Lawyer wrote:
Wrong Email Address wrote:
Here, Here Brooklyn wrote:
I strongly encourage anyone who cares about the LA Marathon doing the right thing to email your concerns to:
Conqur Endurance Group
I received an email response from him acknowledging my concerns and stating that they are currently reviewing the situation.
You didn't receive a response from that email address because you typed it in wrong. You put in a "g" instead of a "q".
Still, no harm done. In trying to find the correct address I found the email of the CEO of the Conqur group and messaged her instead: [email protected]
I also emailed the Chief Operating Officer for good measure: [email protected].
nice catch. Again, The pressure needs to be put on these Race Directors/Organizers and hold them directly accountable to DQ. For goodness sakes, he admitted his peeing transgression (which ironically he probably didn't do) and the "stretching" pics. Let's go. Do right by your race and the sport.
I’m sure we all generally agree that races are hesitant to DQ because they fear legal ramifications (a defamation suit). I’d love to see the age-group runner-up tell them, “Apply your rules, DQ him and name me as winner or I’ll see you in court.” I know I’d consider that and I know a dozen lawyers who would file for me pro bono because they would find it entertaining.
The runner-up would have standing, the race owes him a duty to care, that duty is being breached in my opinion, there are damages, etc. I think it’s a viable suit.
How many instances have there been where someone has sued an RD (or race) over a DQ and won? What were the damages?
There are probably no such cases, which is why my friends would take it on for free. And the lack of such cases wouldn’t decrease the likelihood of prevailing by one iota. It’s negligent to fail to apply your own rules in the face of such compelling evidence. And being an age group champ at a big city marathon has value, even if only $1 would be awarded. To the person denied a rightful award, value is real although determining a dollar figure could be challenging and would probably be low. But you couldn’t claim the person who was cheated wasn’t damaged.
I won the Masters division once at one of the top 10 largest U.S. marathons once. My life didn't change one bit.
There's a reason no one has ever filed suit for this.
And for an apples-to-apples scenario...
If, on that day, you came in second to a guy who ran impossibly fast and then you’re provided with incontrovertible evidence that he cheated and the race management failed to enforce the race rules?
You might not sue. I get that. But I can’t imagine you’d even be in the neighborhood of happy.
But saying that winning didn’t change your life doesn’t provide us with a reasonable comparison.
Actually happened to me once. Years ago, I ended up second in a decently sized regional half. Didn't stick around for the awards and the RD contacted me about a week later about sending the 3rd OA award to me. I told him that I was 2nd and we had a short discussion about it. He told me that at the awards that the 1st place finisher (a guy I knew and ran against several times) told him the same thing after the awards. RD said "it was what it was" and that he would send me my 3rd place stuff.
The guy who was given third probably signed up for the half and ran the 10K instead or maybe he even cut the course. Who knows? And, really, who cares. A different piece of hardware and a couple of gift certificates didn't really matter to me. I guess to some of you, it does.
Ed Whitlock held the World's fastest marathon time for the over-70 Age Group.
He doesn't, now.
A person with no running pedigree whatsoever has ursurped Whitlock's legacy in plain sight.