I've come to really dislike Robert De Niro due to his awful pension funding topping performances, like that one in that abysmal film with Anne Hathaway.
However, having just rewatched Goodfellas for the first time in years, I was shocked to notice how much he'd already started phoning it in even back then. e.g. the scene when he's supposed to be crying when he finds out Tommy got whacked. Stunningly bad.
Was he ever really a great actor or just a cartoon?
Amanda Bentley wrote:
I've come to really dislike Robert De Niro due to his awful pension funding topping performances, like that one in that abysmal film with Anne Hathaway.
However, having just rewatched Goodfellas for the first time in years, I was shocked to notice how much he'd already started phoning it in even back then. e.g. the scene when he's supposed to be crying when he finds out Tommy got whacked. Stunningly bad.
Was he ever really a great actor or just a cartoon?
You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Huh, are yose talkin' to me?
Raging Bull wasn't that bad either.
Amanda Bentley wrote:
I've come to really dislike Robert De Niro due to his awful pension funding topping performances, like that one in that abysmal film with Anne Hathaway.
However, having just rewatched Goodfellas for the first time in years, I was shocked to notice how much he'd already started phoning it in even back then. e.g. the scene when he's supposed to be crying when he finds out Tommy got whacked. Stunningly bad.
Was he ever really a great actor or just a cartoon?
He was good in that movie, and he was good in the scene you're complaining about.
Little Amanda in her pigtails is going to tell us how a sociopathic mobster is supposed to cry when their buddy gets whacked?
De Niro is probably a piece of shitt person, and may very well be a sexual predator, but he wasn't phoning it in in Goodfellas.
De Niro was close friends with Harvey Weinstein, and Weinstein used De Niro's restaurant to prey on a large number of young women.
And I have a theory that some sexual deviants/pedophiles marry black women as a form of virtue signaling and disguise for their sexual deviancy. See George Lucas too.
Apologize to Deniro.
You insulted him a little bit.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tcwxobtNRFQ
He doesn’t even need no speak to act out a good scene.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FmF_Phk6eIE
But yeah, that crying scene was pretty bad acting.
Sometimes you have a bad race.
The crying didn't seem quite right to me. But in any event, his character wasn't a great vehicle for a memorable performance. Liotta and Pesci got the fun roles, and Pesci knocked it out of the park.
what sucked about Goodfellas was not so much the acting, but the fact that nobody fought back when De Niro's character started systematically killing everyone involved in the Lufthansa heist. If that's what really happened, it's unbelievable. He wasn't even a made mafioso!
I thought that de Niro subsequently got a more interesting role to work with in Casino.
The crying scene is great because it's so weird. Check out how awkward Henry reacts. He's not sure if he's supposed to comfort him or what. The shot is also at kind of medium distance--its not intimate. I mean Jimmy is essentially at maniac--maybe not a true sociopath but damn close, and here he is weirdly crying over a guy who was a total maniac and pretty much the worst person in their circle. Tommy was so much different than Pescis character in Casino. Tommy was basically a textbook bully.
Bad Wigins wrote:
what sucked about Goodfellas was not so much the acting, but the fact that nobody fought back when De Niro's character started systematically killing everyone involved in the Lufthansa heist.
Nobody cared about the goombahs getting killed, and besides, they couldn't fight back until Derek and the Dominos finished Layla.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z6MJIjCJ20Bad Wigins wrote:
what sucked about Goodfellas was not so much the acting, but the fact that nobody fought back when De Niro's character started systematically killing everyone involved in the Lufthansa heist. If that's what really happened, it's unbelievable. He wasn't even a made mafioso!
So you point out a reason for a movie sucking because it pretty much followed the timeline of real events in terms of the characters who were asked to leave the earth?
Ever think of why the board in general thinks your a complete baffoon?
Bad Wigins wrote:
what sucked about Goodfellas was not so much the acting, but the fact that nobody fought back when De Niro's character started systematically killing everyone involved in the Lufthansa heist. If that's what really happened, it's unbelievable. He wasn't even a made mafioso!
Frequently, Italian Mafia contracted out killings. Jimmy Conway, as we know often got the green light. Jimmy Conway was similar to Charles Harrelson (Woody's dad). Contract killer.
Amanda Bentley wrote:
I've come to really dislike Robert De Niro due to his awful pension funding topping performances, like that one in that abysmal film with Anne Hathaway.
However, having just rewatched Goodfellas for the first time in years, I was shocked to notice how much he'd already started phoning it in even back then. e.g. the scene when he's supposed to be crying when he finds out Tommy got whacked. Stunningly bad.
Was he ever really a great actor or just a cartoon?
De Niro is 25% Italian and about half crypto-Jew with remainder Gentile European blood. De Niro was playing Irish hoodlum, Jimmy Conway. I recall seeing real Conway on 60 Minutes ages ago. De Niro's performance was very close to mannerisms of real Jimmy Conway.
Avocado's Number wrote:
Pesci knocked it out of the park.
He was really funny.
BING WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?
Do you think Pesci was there to amuse you? You stuttering prick you.
Jimmy Conway wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
what sucked about Goodfellas was not so much the acting, but the fact that nobody fought back when De Niro's character started systematically killing everyone involved in the Lufthansa heist. If that's what really happened, it's unbelievable. He wasn't even a made mafioso!
Frequently, Italian Mafia contracted out killings. Jimmy Conway, as we know often got the green light. Jimmy Conway was similar to Charles Harrelson (Woody's dad). Contract killer.
If you know somebody is going to kill you, then it is a moot issue whether the mob has green-lighted them. Jimmy Burke wasn't made, wasn't well protected, they could have teamed up and got him when they realized what he was doing. It's hard to believe there isn't more to that story than them just sitting around waiting to be executed as Hill claimed.
People, as well as a smartass in this thread, think the facts are known just because Henry Hill told a story. Very little of what he said was verified. The FBI put him under protection mainly because they wanted Burke, so he'd have had an incentive to leave out certain facts to make Burke look worse and himself better.
Maybe most of the killings were really all of them fighting over the money. Maybe the other heist actors, including Hill, were trying to kill Burke to get at the money he was hoarding from them. Maybe that's why none of them turned state's evidence until they had lost that fight.
This is one of my favorite films. Spit shine Tommy is badass as fukk. I would have loved to see his reaction if he didn't died when those guys killed him when Henry rated on everyone in the end. I think he would have destroyed Henry Hill for rating on everyone and giving himself up.
The one thing I'm curious about is the room Tommy was taken to when he was whacked. Is there a signfiicance of the fish on the wall or the poker table in the corner. The room looks really cool actually. I want to decorate mine like that. Did anyone else notice that Tommy made a sound before getting shot. Did he realise that he was about to be shot but was too late?
Bad Wigins wrote:
Jimmy Conway wrote:
Frequently, Italian Mafia contracted out killings. Jimmy Conway, as we know often got the green light. Jimmy Conway was similar to Charles Harrelson (Woody's dad). Contract killer.
If you know somebody is going to kill you, then it is a moot issue whether the mob has green-lighted them. Jimmy Burke wasn't made, wasn't well protected, they could have teamed up and got him when they realized what he was doing. It's hard to believe there isn't more to that story than them just sitting around waiting to be executed as Hill claimed.
People, as well as a smartass in this thread, think the facts are known just because Henry Hill told a story. Very little of what he said was verified. The FBI put him under protection mainly because they wanted Burke, so he'd have had an incentive to leave out certain facts to make Burke look worse and himself better.
Maybe most of the killings were really all of them fighting over the money. Maybe the other heist actors, including Hill, were trying to kill Burke to get at the money he was hoarding from them. Maybe that's why none of them turned state's evidence until they had lost that fight.
You stated again Jimmy Conway not being a Made Man. He couldn't have been a Made Man because he was not Italian nor was he Sicilian. Jimmy Conway was interview in prison on 60 minutes. He wasn't 6'5"275lbs. Obviously, Conway put guys at ease before he killed them.
Bad Wigins wrote:
what sucked about Goodfellas was not so much the acting, but the fact that nobody fought back when De Niro's character started systematically killing everyone involved in the Lufthansa heist. If that's what really happened, it's unbelievable. He wasn't even a made mafioso!
I agree that was daft!
He goes nuts at that dude for buying a big showy pink Cadillac and then whacks him and his missus and leaves them in THE SAME big showy Cadillac! Does that even make sense? Did that really happen? I doubt it - style over substance.
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