Ex University of Arizona steepler says he was assaulted by coach, threatens to sue for $10 million after being kicked off team

His story sounds odd wrote:

It sounds like he threw a whopper of a fit, and those around him got worried for his well-being.

So they threw him down, knocked him out and bloodied his nose?

More B.S. wrote:

His story sounds odd wrote:

It sounds like he threw a whopper of a fit, and those around him got worried for his well-being.

So they threw him down, knocked him out and bloodied his nose?

There's a scene in the movie "Airplane" which comes to mind.

I can't believe a kid who claims to have received 20 scholarship offers for distance running.

There's a new term for helicopter parents who go extra.

"Snow plow parents". They clear the path of their children, even their college and post-college aged children. The parents settle disputes with the kid's college roommate over stolen peanut butter, they research professors before the kid signs up for a class, they arrange job interviews and even try to attend the job interview, etc.

Not sure if this term applies to these particular parents though.

I’m in my 50s and things really have changed. Probably for the better. But if a guy or two were harassing me I would have nipped it in the bud with some choice words, or confronted them/him physically. I’m confident that would have ended it one way or the other. I know for sure my coach would have looked the other way.

The winners here are the lawyers and to some small degree the rich kid. The losers are the assistant coach, program, the teammates and to some degree the rich kid. Ironic that the initial problem was between the athletes and yet the school suffers.

I am in my 50's as well and am just blown away with how soft kids are these days.... So sad... What are they going to do in the real world when things get really tough with a family, job, real stress?? We had things like this all the time... You just dealt with it like a man. Life is tough, grow up!

What I know came from the article. An athlete with a 3.8 gpa even in the last semester is not a slacker and probably not making stuff up to avoid responsibility. It's not unusual in other sports for parents to follow their kids to school. I know parents that travel the country going to every single game of their college-age sons without interfering in their lives. The relevance of the team performances is that he made a mistake signing there.

A lot of the denials here have the ring of principals connected to the story. I don't know how you would know that this was made up unless you were there.

cv zxcvzxcvzxcv wrote:

There's a new term for helicopter parents who go extra.

There's definitely a term for people like you.

zxcvcvxz wrote:

What I know came from the article. An athlete with a 3.8 gpa even in the last semester is not a slacker and probably not making stuff up to avoid responsibility. It's not unusual in other sports for parents to follow their kids to school. I know parents that travel the country going to every single game of their college-age sons without interfering in their lives. The relevance of the team performances is that he made a mistake signing there.

Crissakes, just transfer and get on with your life.

Can wrote:

The winners here are the lawyers and to some small degree the rich kid. The losers are the assistant coach, program, the teammates and to some degree the rich kid. Ironic that the initial problem was between the athletes and yet the school suffers.

The coaches should have kicked the bully rich kids off the team, instead of one of the victims. They didn't, and now the whole program suffers. However, the rich kids are still on the team and probably still doing the same things as before, so their the only ones not suffering the consequences of their actions.

*they're

Exactly. This kid has problems for sure.

David Woster Phallus wrote:

[quote]GoCatz wrote:

Not buying it. Coach “grabs” wrists. “Throws” him down. Bloody nose. Conveniently “feints.”

It's surprising that the same school that turned away tennis prodigy Hal Incandenza due to questions about mental health would let this kid on the track team.

If the admissions officers had just watched the right cartridge, they would never notice who was trying to join the tennis team.

Stupid bullies wrote:

Can wrote:

The winners here are the lawyers and to some small degree the rich kid. The losers are the assistant coach, program, the teammates and to some degree the rich kid. Ironic that the initial problem was between the athletes and yet the school suffers.

The coaches should have kicked the bully rich kids off the team, instead of one of the victims. They didn't, and now the whole program suffers. However, the rich kids are still on the team and probably still doing the same things as before, so their the only ones not suffering the consequences of their actions.

If the teamates were harassing the kid and the kid was in a protected class, then yes the school should step in.

However, I really doubt the school which already has a history, would ignore protected class harassment, then asssault the complainant. Just doesn’t make sense

I find the “facts” of the alleged altercation very strange and therefore I am inclined not to believe them at face value. With that said, I do believe there continues to be a culture to look the other way in the program. Coach Harvey only ever cared about his sprinters and more specifically his 400m hurdlers while trying to get a Kenyan to add some points in distance races at nationals like Lalang. He showed no interest in developing talent over 400m or in truly building a team mentality. The program has basically given up on competing as a team in cross country.

What’s wrong with letting cross go and focusing on outdoor? Cross is not end all be all. That being said Harvey never struck me as an aggressor type but he is in very loose control of the program as a whole.

David Woster Phallus wrote:

It's surprising that the same school that turned away tennis prodigy Hal Incandenza due to questions about mental health would let this kid on the track team.

Needed to up his Eschaton game.

" He says his grade point average last semester was 3.80." Bruh... we did read it. We (seems like at least three diff posters) have the mental capacity to differentiate between *CLAIMS* ("he said" is different from "transcripts provided by Grabowski show a GPA of xxx") and physical proof. Perhaps you should comprehend before forming...opinions? Just a thought.

Richmond 1984 wrote:

It says his GPA in the article. Maybe you should read it before forming opinions.