LMAO top 3 wrote:
LMAO LeBron is top 3 all time? Hahahaha you just lost all credibility. Your "top 3 all time" player won't even make the playoffs this year! Get him more help! Even Kobe, who is borderline top 10 all time, took a bunch of scrubs to the playoffs in 2006-2007.
I assume this is the "I'll drop LeBron's name in there and see how many further pages my idiotic post can extend the thread" troll?
coach wrote:
I never said he'd be a bust, but he is going to get injured. Zion won't get injured in the summer or pre season like many rookies do because his team will most probably hold him out. My guess is during the season probably next January.
So your take is now "Zion will miss a few games due to a knock." All your other examples of star rookies getting injured are only a few games. This is not exactly "bold."
bloviating wrote:
If by “bust” you mean he will not leave up to the hype then yes. He is taking advantage of middling college players but that advantage will be gone in the NBA. Zion is a tweener and does not shoot the three. He is comparable to Barkley and Griffin. Much more athletic than Larry Johnson though. It does not matter who drafts him. He will do freakish thing from time to time but will not take over games nd win championships. I do hate that the Botox, hair dyed devil in Durham is going to leech another championship off one-and-dones.
Lol when K loses with one-and-dones it's: "OADs can't win the champ and K is mailing it in rather than develop players"
When K wins like in 2015: "He's going to leech another champ off the backs of OADs" (by this logic why do we even have coaches lmao)
Are you a UNC fan? Why can't Roy do this? Oh yeah, he playes his OAD freshmen 15 min a game and tanks their stock.
bumping this so the OP can see what a maroon they were
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/sure-its-the-preseason-but-zion-williamsons-rookie-numbers-are-historic/Ivanka wrote:
bumping this so the OP can see what a maroon they were
The No. 1 overall pick is averaging better than 23 points, six rebounds and two assists per game in just 27 minutes a night through four preseason games. He’s shot a ridiculous 71 percent from the field, all while the Pelicans have gone 4-0.
Ivanka wrote:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/sure-its-the-preseason-but-zion-williamsons-rookie-numbers-are-historic/Ivanka wrote:
bumping this so the OP can see what a maroon they were
The No. 1 overall pick is averaging better than 23 points, six rebounds and two assists per game in just 27 minutes a night through four preseason games. He’s shot a ridiculous 71 percent from the field, all while the Pelicans have gone 4-0.
And already hurt.
If Zion Williamson wants to cut out injuries and cut weight ... he NEEDS to cut meat out of his diet ASAP, so says John Salley who says VEGANISM can save Zion's career.
Look, a lot of people think 284 pound Zion is just too heavy to have a long NBA career. He's already missing the first 6 to 8 weeks of the NBA season after undergoing knee surgery.
Enter Salley ... who says Zion can turn the ship around if he turns his diet around.
"My message to Zion? Go vegan, bro. Drink a bunch of water and find out the best way to heal your body, meaning ... not just ultrasounds, not just a hot tub, don't take pills."
https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/29/john-salley-zion-williamson-vegan-knee-injury/
not a bust wrote:
I love how people claim he will be a bust and then cite Blake Griffin and Elton Brand, two borderline hall of famers.
Brand probably won't get in because of his Achilles tear, but according to Basketball Reference similarity scores, here are the 4 most similar careers to Brand's:
Elgin Baylor
Kevin McHale
Shawn Marion
Scottie Pippen
Border line Hall of famers? Stop the heroin before its too late.
Shawn Marion with the others you mentioned? Are you 14 years old?
Well??
The question for rabid Zion fans is, has he already done enough in the pros to make the HoF on a unanimous first try ballot?
tvcew wrote:
not a bust wrote:
I love how people claim he will be a bust and then cite Blake Griffin and Elton Brand, two borderline hall of famers.
Brand probably won't get in because of his Achilles tear, but according to Basketball Reference similarity scores, here are the 4 most similar careers to Brand's:
Elgin Baylor
Kevin McHale
Shawn Marion
Scottie Pippen
Border line Hall of famers? Stop the heroin before its too late.
Shawn Marion with the others you mentioned? Are you 14 years old?
If you read what i wrote, you'd realize I didn't make that list. Those were the 4 careers most similar players to Brand, in order. 3 HOF players and Shawn Marion, who ranks near the top 50 all-time in career WinShares and VORP. If Marion is the worst player you are being compared to....you've had a pretty good career.
....and through his age 29 season Blake Griffin is absolutely on track to have a borderline Hall of Fame career. He's already made 5 All-NBA teams, .....career PER of 22. His numbers compare favorably to a lot of guys that get HOF consideration.
I saw this Zion guy on the TV today. Dude looks pretty heavy, he'd want to get that under control now.
So he doesn't win ROY, and Ja Morant wins almost unanimously, and now the Pels might ship him to MIL? If this trade goes down, it would be eerily similar to the OP's projection. Dude is on a slide.
https://pelicandebrief.com/2020/09/06/new-orleans-pelicans-pels-zion-giannis/
Time to revisit this thread. Fatty Zion has reinjured himself while rehabilitating himself from his latest injury. He is an additional 4-6 weeks after the bones in his feet said .... E N O U G H, A L R E A D Y ! J UST STOP!
https://www.nba.com/news/zion-williamson-foot-injection-4-6-weeks
put him to pasture. where he belongs
Harambe wrote:
coach wrote:
I never said he'd be a bust, but he is going to get injured. Zion won't get injured in the summer or pre season like many rookies do because his team will most probably hold him out. My guess is during the season probably next January.
So your take is now "Zion will miss a few games due to a knock." All your other examples of star rookies getting injured are only a few games. This is not exactly "bold."
bloviating wrote:
If by “bust” you mean he will not leave up to the hype then yes. He is taking advantage of middling college players but that advantage will be gone in the NBA. Zion is a tweener and does not shoot the three. He is comparable to Barkley and Griffin. Much more athletic than Larry Johnson though. It does not matter who drafts him. He will do freakish thing from time to time but will not take over games nd win championships. I do hate that the Botox, hair dyed devil in Durham is going to leech another championship off one-and-dones.
Lol when K loses with one-and-dones it's: "OADs can't win the champ and K is mailing it in rather than develop players"
When K wins like in 2015: "He's going to leech another champ off the backs of OADs" (by this logic why do we even have coaches lmao)
Are you a UNC fan? Why can't Roy do this? Oh yeah, he playes his OAD freshmen 15 min a game and tanks their stock.
Harambe, Yes, Zion will miss a few games. And did each year in his short NBA career. Hopefully hell get better and be dominant like Embiid.
Unfortunately coach K's one and dones haven't done as well as expected, but at least he kept them from attending other schools. Calipari's guys have generally done better.
This thread has aged well.
It’s amazing that the Pelicans franchise hinges on a guy who is 70 pounds overweight, a long injury history dating back to high school, has missed more games than he has played, doesn’t want to play for the team, and can only give them limited minutes when he is on the court. There’s no reason to believe things will get better for Zion based on how his career has gone so far.
The Jeff wrote:
Blake Griffin or Larry Johnson is appropriate. Or here you go, to pull another Dukie: Elton Brand. He'll be at the ASG as a rookie, certainly, but won't make more than 4 more ASG's. We'll never see him in the Finals, unless he somehow winds up on the Lakers, Warriors, Spurs, or Celtics. He'll play for the Knicks until he gets to the option year and then he and his agent will push their way out to be traded to a team like the Magic, the Bulls, the Nets, or the Jazz.
This is what he predicted.
You were wrong
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