Heres the idea:
1 million dollars for 1st place 850k for second and 750k for 3rd place
A crossfit style (running ONLY) competition.
The idea is to find the best runner at ALL distances Day one sprint distances 100 / 200 and 400m
Day 2 800 1600 and 1 mile
Day 3 5k and 10k
Day 4 - The marathon
Who in the world would see emerge as top 3 in the world with a pointing system like crossfit across all events?
Who would be able to sprint there A$$ off and run a fast marathon?
Well, it definitely wouldn't be a sprinter.
I'd guess a 5K runner could win that. They could reasonably drop down to the mile and 800, step up to 10K and do OK at the marathon.
Or maybe a 1500m runner. They'd possibly write off the marathon.
Did you mean 1600 and mile? They're v similar.
I think I put my money on the miler.
What is the actual point systems? You say like Crossfit, but not sure what they use.
Would it be like decathlon where your points are based on time and place doesn't matter?
If so, how would you determine what points correspond to what times?
I am guessing a 5000 meter specialist would have the best shot, but would like to see actual systems before committing that as my final answer.
A twist I want added is that there are no clocks to reference. No watches. You won't know your time until after everyone has finished each event.
Or, same no clock/watches rule, but you won't know any times until after everyone has completed the final event.
Confuzzled wrote:
What is the actual point systems? You say like Crossfit, but not sure what they use.
Would it be like decathlon where your points are based on time and place doesn't matter?
If so, how would you determine what points correspond to what times?
I am guessing a 5000 meter specialist would have the best shot, but would like to see actual systems before committing that as my final answer.
Like confuzzled wrote, the point system used basically creates the event. You could easily weight the short or long events preferentially and make it a massively different event than a different weighting of points.
If you follow the decathlon point system, they are based on the world record at the time the system was created and follow a progression from 0 points (some bad performance level that was selected) up through and past the world record.
An alternative would be to use the IAAF scoring tables. They're already established for all the events you listed.
I think a 1500/5000m guy probably dominates with the list you wrote. Imagine El Gerouj extending out to a marathon, I bet he runs something respectable, like 2:10 at the end of those multiple days. Or kejelka is an obvious contemporary choice.
All things considered I feel Kipchoge would win. He would dominate 5k to Marathon.
What are the different energy systems/pathways used in running? You'd want them represented equally across the spectrum of events.
Something like alactic, anaerobic, aerobic, or ideally more granular than that, but I don't know what that would be.
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What are the different energy systems/pathways used in running? You'd want them represented equally across the spectrum of events.
Something like alactic, anaerobic, aerobic, or ideally more granular than that, but I don't know what that would be.
Des Linden would win
If using the IAAF point tables, you'd want a runner with "range" who's best event is in the middle of the contested events. So if we went with the standard 100, 200, 400, 800, 1500, 5000, 10000, Marathon event schedule, you'd have 8 races. So the ideal runner would probably be a 800-1500 runner with a bit of a distance background. Without some basic speed in the 800, I think someone like Kipchoge might be losing a ton of points in the 100-400 that he just couldn't get back by dropping a monster marathon. For US runners, Clayton Murphy or Centro would be my favorite choices. For the ladies, Houlihan and Simpson would be the 2 best.
1 million dollars wrote:
Heres the idea:
1 million dollars for 1st place 850k for second and 750k for 3rd place
A crossfit style (running ONLY) competition.
The idea is to find the best runner at ALL distances Day one sprint distances 100 / 200 and 400m
Day 2 800 1600 and 1 mile
Day 3 5k and 10k
Day 4 - The marathon
Who in the world would see emerge as top 3 in the world with a pointing system like crossfit across all events?
Who would be able to sprint there A$$ off and run a fast marathon?
I would like to see the hurdle event included. All the olympic running (flat + hurdles) gives you 11 events.
Day 1: 100, 110HH, 200, 400
Day 2: 400H, 800, 1500, 3000SC
Day 3: 5K, 10K
Day 4: Marathon
Definitely at real test of running abilities.
another perspective wrote:
If using the IAAF point tables, you'd want a runner with "range" who's best event is in the middle of the contested events. So if we went with the standard 100, 200, 400, 800, 1500, 5000, 10000, Marathon event schedule, you'd have 8 races. So the ideal runner would probably be a 800-1500 runner with a bit of a distance background. Without some basic speed in the 800, I think someone like Kipchoge might be losing a ton of points in the 100-400 that he just couldn't get back by dropping a monster marathon. For US runners, Clayton Murphy or Centro would be my favorite choices. For the ladies, Houlihan and Simpson would be the 2 best.
I think you understimate how fast Kipchoge is on the short distances.
And a 1500 m runner would be destroyed in a 10 k or a marathon.
Charlesvdw wrote:
And a 1500 m runner would be destroyed in a 10 k or a marathon.
a 10 k runner would be destroyed in anything less than a 1500.
You should mix the sprints with the distance.
Day 1- marathon, 400 meters, Mile,
Day 2- 100 meters, 5K, 800 meters,
Day 3- 10K, 200 meters.