Winchester 73 wrote:
Thoughts?
https://static.nytimes.com/email-content/RU_11004.html?nlid=76263826
Clearly, it's not a good thing.
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Winchester 73 wrote:
Thoughts?
https://static.nytimes.com/email-content/RU_11004.html?nlid=76263826
Clearly, it's not a good thing.
facts and reason wrote:
This is more race-based garbage from leftist trolls.
They NEVER complain that blacks dominate basketball or boxing or sprinting.
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Yes, but they dominate those sports DESPITE the social disadvantages that all of us recognize.
Is Jesse Owens then your evidence that track & field was a level playing field in 1936?
sconehead wrote:
facts and reason wrote:
This is more race-based garbage from leftist trolls.
They NEVER complain that blacks dominate basketball or boxing or sprinting.
[...cut more stupid stuff...]
Yes, but they dominate those sports DESPITE the social disadvantages that all of us recognize.
Is Jesse Owens then your evidence that track & field was a level playing field in 1936?
They outnumber any other race in basketball because 100% of inner city blacks play...basketball
Why do you guys get so worked up over such an innocuous column? If it was in the Sacramento Bee I would have forgotten about it 5 minutes after I read it. Why do you give a sh*t about what Jen A. Miller thinks? And if it was so offensive why didn't Breibart or the Daily Caller respond to it? Can you find any negative reaction to it anywhere besides from oppressed white people on LR?
Uber white hobbyjogger wrote:
ncrunner25 wrote:
This thread is nuts. I don’t think the article meant anything by it. I don’t think running is all white. That’s a bogus claim. I’m Black by the way. Distance running in America is overwhelmingly white. That’s not a bad thing that’s just facts. Black Americans tend to do 100-800 m. I don’t know if it’s a racism thing. There are tons of 1:45 Black dudes that could go sub 4 in the mile or maybe move up to the 5 K. There are a bunch of white dudes that could move down to the 800 m too instead of 1500/5/10. Black Americans see Black sprints and mid distance Runners do well so they do it. That’s all the article is saying. I don’t get all this Jew anti white racism stuff. Y’all taking this too seriously.
^This. Lots of triggered white conservative snowflakes posting on this thread. You guys are seriously thin-skinned if this story offended you. If you have to resort to “what if this story was about x,y, or z minority group” then you are displaying the same “victim mentality” the right often accuses minority groups of displaying.
When someone says "but X is far from perfect," whatever follows is implied to be a bad thing.
"...but my neighborhood is far from perfect. Many of the old brownstones have been replaced by modern steel and glass high rises." When you read this, do you assume that I do not like modern steel and glass high rises and that I prefer the older housing stock, or do you assume that I am just making a neutral statement about changes in local architecture?
No, I don't think that I am a victim. I do not subscribe the mindset that one has to be a victim to have an opinion. I will feel perfectly free to think the author is a moron despite my own lack of victim status.
...running has been a white collar sport since the first days of the running boom ~1972 ...those jobs were/are held predominantly by white people ...nothing much has changed in the last 40+ years... some good points made here and also some other very wild social opinions being bandied about on this thread...it’s all economic; available time, money and energy allows for running to exist as a part of this world’s society...end of thread.
http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=lapchick/040510Sb2 wrote:
I see whites playing basketball all the time.
"Five years ago, blacks made up 77 percent of the NBA player pool, which was exactly the percentage at the All-Star break this past winter. That number has stayed consistent -- 77-to-78 percent -- over that time frame.
During the same period, the percentage of white NBA players has declined from 23 to 21 percent."
Are you going to vote Democrat for more leftism?
Typical Letsrun User: I'M NOT RACIST. ALSO ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE CRIMINALS AND ON WELFARE. ALSO I'M MORE OFFENDED BY THIS NYT OP-ED THAN NEO-NAZI PROPAGANDA.
not a victim wrote:
Uber white hobbyjogger wrote:
^This. Lots of triggered white conservative snowflakes posting on this thread. You guys are seriously thin-skinned if this story offended you. If you have to resort to “what if this story was about x,y, or z minority group” then you are displaying the same “victim mentality” the right often accuses minority groups of displaying.
When someone says "but X is far from perfect," whatever follows is implied to be a bad thing.
"...but my neighborhood is far from perfect. Many of the old brownstones have been replaced by modern steel and glass high rises." When you read this, do you assume that I do not like modern steel and glass high rises and that I prefer the older housing stock, or do you assume that I am just making a neutral statement about changes in local architecture?
No, I don't think that I am a victim. I do not subscribe the mindset that one has to be a victim to have an opinion. I will feel perfectly free to think the author is a moron despite my own lack of victim status.
What the other poster meant: you (or others like you) play the victim even though you don't have nothing materially to complain about. Like upper-middle class people in my town complaining about $300 car tab increase when their homes have appreciated $300K. It's not about having an opinion but rather equating your grievance with someone whose second-class treatment by society actually has cause for grievance.
Of course, X (the running scene) is far from perfect when it's overwhelmingly white. I can't imagine anyone rationally disputing that - and have yet to hear anyone here do so.
Lighten Up wrote:
Why do you guys get so worked up over such an innocuous column? If it was in the Sacramento Bee I would have forgotten about it 5 minutes after I read it. Why do you give a sh*t about what Jen A. Miller thinks? And if it was so offensive why didn't Breibart or the Daily Caller respond to it? Can you find any negative reaction to it anywhere besides from oppressed white people on LR?
If you can't see what is so offensive then you may need to get out more or pull your head out of your poop chute.
Also, did you know the white middle class is the most oppressed segment of the population right now?
facts and reason wrote:
http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=lapchick/040510Sb2 wrote:
I see whites playing basketball all the time.
"Five years ago, blacks made up 77 percent of the NBA player pool, which was exactly the percentage at the All-Star break this past winter. That number has stayed consistent -- 77-to-78 percent -- over that time frame.
During the same period, the percentage of white NBA players has declined from 23 to 21 percent."
Are you going to vote Democrat for more leftism?
Why are you restricting it to the NBA? I’m talking about any form of basketball, just as the author of the article was talking about any form of running. They weren’t talking about the Diamond League being overwhelmingly white.
lighten up yourself wrote:
Lighten Up wrote:
Why do you guys get so worked up over such an innocuous column? If it was in the Sacramento Bee I would have forgotten about it 5 minutes after I read it. Why do you give a sh*t about what Jen A. Miller thinks? And if it was so offensive why didn't Breibart or the Daily Caller respond to it? Can you find any negative reaction to it anywhere besides from oppressed white people on LR?
If you can't see what is so offensive then you may need to get out more or pull your head out of your poop chute.
Also, did you know the white middle class is the most oppressed segment of the population right now?
Bahahahahahaha
lighten up yourself wrote:
Lighten Up wrote:
Why do you guys get so worked up over such an innocuous column? If it was in the Sacramento Bee I would have forgotten about it 5 minutes after I read it. Why do you give a sh*t about what Jen A. Miller thinks? And if it was so offensive why didn't Breibart or the Daily Caller respond to it? Can you find any negative reaction to it anywhere besides from oppressed white people on LR?
If you can't see what is so offensive then you may need to get out more or pull your head out of your poop chute.
Also, did you know the white middle class is the most oppressed segment of the population right now?
If these guys really read the letter, they'd see it was a positive & optimistic take on running today:
"That’s because running has become democratized. Instead of it being a sport only for very fit, very fast, skinny white dudes, it’s for almost everyone."
sconehead wrote:
Of course, X (the running scene) is far from perfect when it's overwhelmingly white. I can't imagine anyone rationally disputing that - and have yet to hear anyone here do so.
Correct. That's an extremely racist remark and its unbelievable that the columnist is free to just go home without any consequences.
sconehead wrote:
not a victim wrote:
When someone says "but X is far from perfect," whatever follows is implied to be a bad thing.
"...but my neighborhood is far from perfect. Many of the old brownstones have been replaced by modern steel and glass high rises." When you read this, do you assume that I do not like modern steel and glass high rises and that I prefer the older housing stock, or do you assume that I am just making a neutral statement about changes in local architecture?
No, I don't think that I am a victim. I do not subscribe the mindset that one has to be a victim to have an opinion. I will feel perfectly free to think the author is a moron despite my own lack of victim status.
What the other poster meant: you (or others like you) play the victim even though you don't have nothing materially to complain about. Like upper-middle class people in my town complaining about $300 car tab increase when their homes have appreciated $300K. It's not about having an opinion but rather equating your grievance with someone whose second-class treatment by society actually has cause for grievance.
Of course, X (the running scene) is far from perfect when it's overwhelmingly white. I can't imagine anyone rationally disputing that - and have yet to hear anyone here do so.
What does the bolded mean? I'm not equating my grievance with anything. I simply read an argument that I think is stupid, and I've said that I think it is stupid.
The fact that running/not running is a matter of preference is the reason that being overwhelmingly white isn't a bad thing. I understand that you disagree with this, but your disagreement does not make it irrational.
Given that unemployment rates among minorities are higher, I hardly see how that could point to minorities having LESS free time.
Hypocrites wrote:
In this thread: Letsrun loses its collective mind over the suggestion that there might be some racism in recreational distance running.
Also in this thread: Recreational distance runners spread literal Neo-Nazi propaganda.
The lack of self-awareness on this site never ceases to amaze me.
I always enjoy this tactic of bringing separate opinions voiced by different people together to declare the assembled collective opinion to be hypocritical. Basically your argument is that racism is an issue in running because internet trolls are a thing.
lighten up yourself wrote:
Lighten Up wrote:
Why do you guys get so worked up over such an innocuous column? If it was in the Sacramento Bee I would have forgotten about it 5 minutes after I read it. Why do you give a sh*t about what Jen A. Miller thinks? And if it was so offensive why didn't Breibart or the Daily Caller respond to it? Can you find any negative reaction to it anywhere besides from oppressed white people on LR?
If you can't see what is so offensive then you may need to get out more or pull your head out of your poop chute.
Also, did you know the white middle class is the most oppressed segment of the population right now?
That would require some incredible flexibility. If I go outside, I'm going to see oppressed white people?
Again, show me some evidence that anyone, besides about 20 people on LR, gives a rat's about the column.
assembled collective opinion wrote:
Hypocrites wrote:
In this thread: Letsrun loses its collective mind over the suggestion that there might be some racism in recreational distance running.
Also in this thread: Recreational distance runners spread literal Neo-Nazi propaganda.
The lack of self-awareness on this site never ceases to amaze me.
I always enjoy this tactic of bringing separate opinions voiced by different people together to declare the assembled collective opinion to be hypocritical. Basically your argument is that racism is an issue in running because internet trolls are a thing.
The poster has a case when said internet trolls are active members of the online running community,.
facts and reason wrote:
Vote Democrat if you want a socialist utopia where blacks are 50% of every sport, job, and tv show just because of "feelings" for "social justice".
Thanks for supporting me!